(This is like FAST Social Circle style game created by one of my Wings back when I was in Detroit. This post was also posted on the Mastermind section of masf back in the day. ~Ronnie)
by Sonics (retired) » November 15th, 2009, 4:05 pm
RSVP: An In-Field How-To Guide
Disclaimer: This Was Written For Educational Purposes Only
For my fellow deep thinkers in shallow thought:
When I’m out gaming I have two main ways of playing: Moment Game which is more of a solo feel or RSVP, which is a group oriented thing that I like to do, or an everybody I’m with gets to play type thing… RSVP is much more tangible as you’ll hopefully see
RSVP is my natural process, at least what my natural pull from the venue process has become… just assigned an acronym to it, once I found the acronym not only did my game improve but you can cut the process down to 30 seconds and pull girls around the venue, very consistently. It by no means is something to live by or to use as a strict rule, but for certain aspects of game, for me, it’s a good guideline.
Think of RSVP as a routine pick-up or a routine bounce. The process and result becomes routine.
My Goal with This Post:
To have everyone (that wants to) reading this with a basic skill set be able to do a 5-30 second RSVP Quick Bounce tonight.
Basic Skill Level:
Eye Contact, Smile, Good Body Language, Loud Enough, Un-limiting Beliefs (at least the belief that RSVP will work… it does, trust)
Hopeless newbies, if they truly exist, can pull this off with a little willingness and some guidance… I’ve gotten one of the most socially awkward guys I’ve ever seen to do this first try, he stumbled through the process and got even more nervous as soon as it worked, like “holy shit, this girl is smiling and following me to the table” nervous… pretty funny in a proud way (Hopeless newbies are only hopeless if they aren’t willing, my anxiety was much worse than his when I got started, I had it bad)
I wrote this as if I were a newbie with only basic community knowledge reading it, so the post came out LONG, IOW this post is very much a “how-to”
The quick bounce might feel mechanical at first but once you get the hang of it “or get the training wheels off” aka being able to improvise it and forgetting about the RSVP structure altogether it becomes fluid and second nature and also a great tool for the field, if you choose to you’ll be used to pulling girls around the venue to a table with you in no time… have fun with it… run the structure, attain the belief, and, if you can, forget you ever read this…
RSVP Quick Bounce in its rawest simplest form:
First have your friends/wings take a seat somewhere… then… go up to a set
PUA: Hey what’s up, you guys having a good night?
PUA: I’m actually sitting over there with my friends… let me see your hand [grabs HB’s hand, spin/twirls her around] You know what… you guys are actually pretty cool, come on [pulls set to table]
It’s that easy.
Further explanation below…
RSVP Quick Bounce:
5-30 second in Venue Group Bounces/Pulls:
Indirect will pull the SET…
If you go direct, mean it and make sure you calibrate it, calibrate everything, it still works consistently and if you’re comfortable with that then that’s the route I recommend you go… I’d save the actual direct interest (SOI) until your back at the table with a second set; but do what you want, you’re going to anyway
Indirect will pull the SET
The Quick Bounce is a group conscious social (on the surface) thing, meaning you’re taking care of your friends while simultaneously setting yourself up with your target. It also gets people involved that might not have been involved otherwise, guys with wicked AA or your non-pickup friends that don’t approach get to chat and possibly hook-up with some girls too… girls want to be social, remember that.
(The following are the Steps followed by numbered examples (all field tested) but I encourage you to think of your own and once you get a feel for it freestyle your quick bounces)
Is Assumed… In the quick bounce you’re most likely not going to hit real rapport as soon as you walk up, just do or say something that someone in rapport would do or say… Feels like–> Same page, welcome, cool, chill, mutual, small teases will open the door to rapport… calibrate to the vibe, energy, environment, and maturity level of the set then do/say something like one of the following:
1) Introduce yourself
2) “What’s up”
3) “How ya guys doing?”
1) TC while Seeding the pull/bounce/isolation
2) “Real quick… I gotta get back to my friends”
3) “I only have a second, my friends and I got a table”
*TC not needed
(Own the set at this point (smile) all eyes on you)
The following are some ways to Give Value with some examples:
(You only need ONE of the examples for the V part… Just pick one or two of the examples (or use your own), string them together then pull the set)
1) You’re the one that’s going to find fun, you’re the one that’s going to take all the fun as it comes, and you… wait, who are you… you’re either the shy one or the driver
2) You guys look like you’re out for a chill night
3) You guys have some Crazy energy
1) Charlie’s Angels
2) The Brady Bunch
3) Tyra’s Top Models (intro to your group with sarcastic laughter “just kidding, but you guys are pretty cute” pull–>push–>pull)
1) Mary and Poppins
2) Tweedle Dee and Tweedle… Well [nod knowingly]
3) Cherry & Vanilla/ Cookies & Cream
1) Hand hold
2) Leading her from lower back
3) Couple Kino
4) Playful Push
1) OMG!! Hide Me!!
2) Employee of the month
3) Body Guards
4) Instant Dates/Group Date
1) Grab/Hold hand and spin her (super simple and effective)
2) Group Spins
1) Social Circle Cheers
2) Improv Game (TD’s thing)
4) Any fun/funny thing you can think of that they do with you
Teach Her/Them Something
1) Limes in Coronas
1) You guys have a really cool style, I just wanted to stop and hi
2) My god, you’re beautiful…
Giving A Piece of Yourself (info about you)
1) I just got down here from xxx
2) I’m on vacation
Don’t ask, and lead…
1) You know what, you guys are pretty cool, I want you to meet some of my friends
2) You know what, follow me
3) Come with me
Token resistance is common, especially if you’re doing the 10 second version… just smile and say “C’mon… C’mon” DO NOT STEP BACK TOWARDS THE SET… I’ve seen guys do this… WRONG (there are exceptions to this; but for the most part DO NOT STEP BACK TOWARDS THE SET)
There might be a small amount of fluff between the steps and the more value you give them the more enthused they are about the pull; but the above only lasts for about 30 seconds and you own a set… they follow you to where you’re going.
During the move around the venue you can do the arm in arm thing that Mystery talks about or grab one or more of their hands to lead them to where you’re going, or arm around one’s back hand hold the other (like Group Couple Kino (Insta-Dates/Group Date Role Play)), or if it’s super busy have them all interlock arms or hold hands and pull them through the crowd
Make sure to accomplishment intro your friend(s) on the way to the table.
The set is now yours to play with, they lock in with you, tone it down and GET TO KNOW YOUR TARGET, by the time you’re at the table the Kino is ideally Constant (Constant Kino)
Do this a few times and you and your friends have an in-venue party. You become the sets’ base group. It’s neat when girls you’ve known for a minute make sure their friends stay with you to keep themselves locked in…
The first set you bring back ALWAYS likes you more when you bring the second set… it’s beautiful… if it’s your first time pulling more than one set to your table, sit back and watch the dynamic when you get the chance, it’s pretty… this is also when it gets fun. Make it quick, 10 minutes max to getting the sets there. They never know what’s going on… lol …it’s a mixer… Isolating from one of these groups is simple
You don’t necessarily need a table, just a lock-in place (like a wall) or if it’s a chill place get your friends by a pool table… but know that the girls will psychologically lock-in if you have a table and you’ll get that group vibe close quarters jealousy plot as well… (a table/place to sit is better than an area where everyone stands, unless you’re just dropping off an obstacle(s) then it doesn’t matter.)
Your Social Value/Proof in the room sky rockets, especially amongst your sets. (If appropriate, sprinkle in some compliance based state pumps to keep the party going)
RSVP in its Rawest, Simplest, Least Fun, Yet Effective Form:
PUA: Hey what’s up, you guys having a good night?
HBs: yeah (R)
PUA: I only have second, I’m sitting over there with my friends (S)… but here, let me see your hand [grabs HBs hand, spin/twirls her/them around] You know what… you guys are actually pretty cool (V), come on, I want you to meet my friends [pulls set to table] (P)
Like I said earlier it might feel mechanical at first, but you’ll get the hang of it (it’s actually kind of fun to act like a robot when doing it)
The Behavior Rule:
Everybody knows the 3-Second rule… That’s great if you’re just starting off or you haven’t been out in awhile to just get a set out of the way and your nerves at bay; but for RSVP (or IMO all aspects of pick-up) it’s Not Always the best route.
Quickly observe the sets behavior: high-energy, low-energy, sleepy, chatty, super happy, bored, deep rapport, fun night out, their body language, sitting, standing, moving, mixed, waiting, bouncing, looking around, empty drinks, texting, dancing, swinging bottles… I admit that that takes much less than 3 seconds… instantly at a glance you guys should know what’s up or at least have a general idea of what’s going on in their set (if you don’t have this ability yet, just keep going into sets and it’ll happen over time, observe guess and go)
The reason I like the behavior rule more is because if the sets behavior tells you they’re waiting for a drink and you apply the 3-second rule you’ll be up at the bar with them waiting to buy a drink… if the competition is fierce go ahead, but if it’s a chill environment just wait it out.
Ideally standing sets with full drinks are best for this, they’re everywhere and require little to no effort on your part for the actual pull.
Do the in-venue quick bounce a couple times and you’ll get a feel for it.
Just remember standing sets are easier to move around, obviously, because they’re already standing. (Standing girls are also easier to disappear with for the same reason)
If you’re getting a lot of hesitation when you do this it could be a couple things, some things to remember when doing this:
2) Have fun
3) String/stack some of your ways to give/assign value
4) Only Give Value
5) Make sure you’ve observed the whole set
6) Calibrated to their energy, the environment, perceived maturity, and vibe
7) It Works Belief (I truly believe that every standing set wants to quick bounce)
Seating does become a problem during the weekend… use your head on this one/improvise
9) Learn as you go… play with it… be charming and learn as you go, this is a simple process. You can all do this tonight…
**For the real pull**
This is how RSVP originated (I wrote a post called “After Party Routine” about a year ago, this is what I was unknowingly doing minus the P, it was all time-bridged and it still works; but personally I like this more because of quality time and the venue changing) It’s a little bit harder to explain in specific detail because every set is different… super simple to do but a little tough to explain. You’re hitting rapport, dropping your seed, openly sharing/exchanging value, then pulling out of the venue based on your seed planted earlier or your new plan… simple as that. Don’t think about it, just do it. I’ve gotten a lot of sex from this.
RSVP Out of Venue Pull:
(Set/target leaves out of the venue with you to new place or destination)
No quick bounce or wings necessary, not necessarily linear (RSVP to a table or join a set, then RSVP out of the venue (only one playable set needed), standing sets are easier to move around, seated sets are easier to pick up (for me at least))
Most important thing to remember, when you’re going to venue change or pull out of the venue, that many people I’ve been out gaming with seem to disregard is to STAY IN SET… why the hell do people keep ejecting out of sets? Unless you get blown-out or are ejecting for a legitimate or tactical reason, STAY IN YOUR SETS. Growth/knowledge/calibration will come from staying in your sets and seeing it through. You’ll learn which sets are wasting your time by staying in sets that had wasted your time; likewise, you’ll learn which sets are worth your time by staying in set and seeing it through. Use your little head and your gut to decide on whether or not to eject… Premature-Ejectulation is not a blow-out; it’s avoidable and non-productive on so many levels. Just stay in set… You don’t need game with flash to get ass… trust me. If the set wants to pull, your game is done, at that point feel free to wander… until then STAY IN SET…
Hooked set, set likes you, same page, cool with each other, real, smooth sailing, chill, friends with potential benefits feel, good vibes, mutual, relaxed, comfortable, locked-in, remember small teases open the door to rapport
Seed the pull:
Near the beginning drop your seed to plant the pull and also to check for enthusiasm. This also involves getting their logistics, or figuring out what their plans are for the near future. If the logistics are seriously bad, time-bridge and move on
Run the set for however long you feel necessary, exchange stories, get to know each other, enjoy yourself and play your game… talking/hanging out
The group is ready to pull when all the girls (only the girls you want to pull) are putting in effort or have invested effort into the interaction with you, along with other social observations like empty drinks and closing time
Pull the set by bringing up the seed and leaving the venue or by going along with a new plan (going with them for instance) Many times the girls will WANT to leave with you. Going to their/her place is better and more consistent. If driving is involved either get in the car with them or have a wing jump in with them to help with directions… The sets impression of your wings does depend on whether or not they will pull… so, have good wings or don’t get them involved
(ATTAIN THE BELIEF and forget the structure.)
Once you have the belief and you know what to look for in BL, their effort, and vibe, pulling becomes second nature.
IF The Set Will Not Pull:
Watch the set when you go for the pull (really always be focused)… then, if they aren’t going to pull, time-bridge if they hesitate too much to pull and/or also if you have an actual time constraint to be somewhere… time-bride her/them based on your seed or topic in your conversation…
Regularly succeed at a goal (in this case pulling) and you’ve created a skill…
Questions, comments or just some love… As Always