So much to add to my blog and so little time. I gotta give people some breath, however I feel that my blog now is evolving based on my students’ needs and that’s cool by me. But you don’t give a shit about all that 😉 On to the good stuff.
Another Article by Sonics – This time:
Subject: Constant Kino
Date: January 25th, 2008 02:36:44 PM (EST)
Author: sonics
Themesong:
(I got a question about Constant Kino on another forum, I started answering it and this is what came out… thought I’d post it for your guy’s eyes too.)
First off, Constant Kino isn’t really anything new… I just named it because it’s something I’ve noticed myself doing and I thought with a name it’d be easier for people to understand and able to help them more. I’m sure many of you readers have been doing this naturally forever; but this is for the guys who that haven’t been.
This isn’t like Mehow’s Pure Kino, which is like doing the trust test or a palm reading (I don’t read palms; but palm reading is an example of a Pure Kino Routine), Constant Kino is your legs touching each other’s while doing the palm read and remains constant after the palm read is over.
The actual constant thing doesn’t start until you actually know the girl a little… really, a half hour after knowing someone doesn’t mean you KNOW them know them; but that’s about how long it takes to get to this point, in most cases… you meet a girl get to know her then all of a sudden you guys are always touching…
It is by all means perfect for alone time, alone meaning just you and her. Day 2 stuff, special case bar girls : ), or maybe there just isn’t any room for anything but for Constant Kino to take place, like you met a girl while you were seated at a party on a packed couch.
It’s all in the name; you are constantly touching her, think of it as always having some kind of kino going on. Not you just keep touching her here and there throughout the interaction. You are always, constantly, touching her and she is always touching you as well by default, many times it will be the girl initiating it.
Think of subtle long lasting kino as the bottom line of this.
Say you’re watching a movie in the theatres (which still works as a completely acceptable day 2) and you guys are sharing an armrest with your elbows and forearms against one an others, or maybe your knees are touching.
That’s weak and basic but still what I mean by Constant Kino. I just wrote that example as a final way for you to have an idea of what it is you’re reading about.
I think of PDA as a public display. Constant Kino, while having many of the same “moves,” isn’t really for others to see. While PDA is Constant Kino, Constant Kino is also a term that explains what the lasting kino is when no one else is there to see. PDA should never stop, the people just need to leave : )
Like when you’re at one of your houses on the couch and she throws her feet on your lap or say you guys are cuddling. Like in my HBBcup LR, where our legs were touching while I was standing at the table, no one else could see, it wasn’t even a big deal, it was just happening, purposely.
Once you have Constant Kino going, and if the situation allows it PDA, sex is inevitable. The comfort and familiarity with touching each other has been going on since you first started hanging out, it’s then only natural to full close. You don’t need it; but when I’m running solid game Constant Kino is always there.
If you think about the word “Constant” you’ll remember to be doing it. Now you can sometimes draw attention to it; but for the most part it’s something neither of you two should be thinking about… which is kind of a contradiction since I told you to remember the term; just don’t make a big deal out of it happening while you’re making it happen.
This will sound a little AFC to the new guys; but think of you and the girl temporarily sharing your world, kino and all; that’s where you want to be. Get her here and it’s crazy what chicks will do.
OBVIOUSLY, you shouldn’t and can’t always be touching the girl. Leave the girl every once and awhile with her friends or your friends, then when you come back go Constant Kino again. Keep it subtle and discrete, not always PDA. The only person that really needs to know about the kino is the girl herself. That goes for all kino really. You don’t have to or even really want to be claiming the girl in front of others, unless you can tell that that’s what she wants. (Anybody with a decent level of female facial calibration will be able to tell if you’re claiming her to show the guy talking to her, (if her eyes stay locked on you while a guy is claiming her, she’s telling you to keep going) this just makes me lose respect for the guys. I used to be that guy)
Constant Kino is a shared thing, if the girl isn’t receptive yet, wash rinse and repeat later. That I suppose is where the escalation in this comes into play. Say you’re on a day 2 at the mall and you go for the hand hold, she’s not feelin’ it, you drop her hand. You do it again, she’s still not really feelin’ it, and you drop it again. A little later, for a third time you’re walking slightly in front of her, you go for it and she holds onto two and a half of your fingers like she’s been your chick for the last year. (Take her someplace secluded and go Constant Kino with your body parts (legs, arms, feet, back of hands, palms, etc.)… and escalate.)
It’s all the places you would normally touch; you’re just doing it constantly letting the kino continue.
Try this once you get the Constant Kino going: after you’ve been touching each other for a few hours break it off for no reason and watch her come back in or ask you “what’s wrong?”
Remember kino is a reward. If she’s bothering you in anyway, no kino!! Be playful with it, while making it something you just do.
Like I wrote at the top of this post, I’m sure a lot of you guys are doing this already, now, if you weren’t already, you can consciously add to your already existing skills in this area. This was more for the people that weren’t doing it already… Keep it constant guys… it’ll help.
Ways I’ve initiated the Constant Kino:
1) tickle attacks to snuggle kino
2) “Let’s see if you fit”
3) random hand placement (if you’re in her car just reach over and put your hand on her leg)
4) Grab her hands and put them on you
5) move her body parts (leg on top of your leg when side by side)
6) all sorts of close close proximity types
7) just the tips of your shoes
8 ) hand on her lower back
9) start it on the dance floor!!
10) Hugs with a spin into proximity shoulders touching
Thanks for reading.
If you have any relevant questions… fire away
-Sonics
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Sidecar:
Subject: “Lets see if you fit…” *A shortcut through Kino Escalation*
Date: July 13th, 2007 07:32:34 PM (EDT)
Author: sonics
A Sonics original (to the best of my knowledge at least) … enjoy
*A short cut through Kino escalation*
This will help you get to that point of pushing the interaction towards a make out, or a ONS, or potential girlfriend, or FB, whatever… here it is, fun and easy:
“Let’s see if you fit”
Use this after you both like each other. Could be instant or it could be after awhile, no interaction is the same, it could be after you isolate, a lot of the time, for me, it’s after very little Kino has been exchanged or before any Kino has been established at all, you both wanna touch each other, this just helps that happen…
You’re sitting next to her and you make space for her to scoot in under your arm to do a sit up cuddle and say “let’s see if you fit” then you guys do a sit up cuddle.
Or
Simply stand next to her and say “Let’s see if you fit” with an arm out as if you’re inviting her to come in. Have her step in under your arm with your arm on her lower back…
Or
Hold out your hand and say “let’s see if it fits” and hold her hand, fingers interlocked below the waist in a “we’ve been dating” kind of way.
This has been field tested by me for the last month and a half and the girl will ALWAYS come in to see if she fits! So far for me anyway, and that’s a lot of different girls auditioning for the fit. Remember this is after attraction, the majority of the time it’s after all those IOI’s, after those shared stories, after you’ve felt each other out and feel comfortable with each other, most importantly when it feels right. I’ve yet to F this up; but probably will one day who knows. It’s worked for the guys I’ve told already too, so, if you want, I’m sure it will work for you too.
Make sure to act as if it’s no big deal, and just continue being yourself and doing the same thing you were doing before the Kino.
This is just one way and probably the best LINE so far I’ve found to initiate Constant Kino, which is huge in my game. I know it’s a line; but once you get here a couple times you’ll be able to think of a thousand different ways to get Constant/Comfort Kino.
This is perfect for the time spent together at the bar after a number close, or walking down the street to a new venue, and standard in isolation.
This is not the time to say no you don’t fit and throw her away, unless of course you still feel like playing and aren’t ready to take that step… cough <wuss> cough This is the beginning of your new playfully enjoyable and shared world. Think “couple Kino.”
Happy Flower Picking,
-Sonics
Sidecar II:
I chose The Stooges because last night I was writing this at a bar in Chicago where I decided to go, and finish up work and at least give myself an opportunity to open sets while I was working. Sooo. Once I finished doling out homework, answering emails and posting this, this song came on so I made it the themesong. PS – I like Iggy Pop and the Stooges anyway.
Did you know he actually helped fund and pay for the air conditioner for a place called Sweat Records in Miami, which is a Record Store that doubles as a coffeeshop?
Just a Dude Trying to Abide 
Constant KINO I believe has been used by another name in the community. If I remember correctly, Vin Dicarlo has a system called the escalation ladder which is based on KINO.
He was basically saying that there are light kino, accidental kino and 2 to 3 other forms of kino. Same shit though as with the constant kino, but just a slight difference in phrasing depended on the school of thought of pickup.
Mehow though is 1 of my favorite coaches, but I never read anything he wrote on kino.
This is different than the Kino Escalation Ladder, which, by the way, is a little too complicated and unnecessary.
This is not about learning to take steps to escalate by touching. This is about creating an IOM using touching for the entire interaction after a certain point.
Ok cool I get that. So you have heard of the DEL by Vin Dicarlo?
Ya. Before that there was a guy, one of the best ever but an unknown called Fluid. He actually retired and became a minister. But before that he said he had slept with so many women it would not be possible for him to remember all the names and faces if he tried.
That being said, he had something he came up with that was like an escalation ladder of his own. It started with “accidentally” touching a chick in a non-sexual spot then touching her on purpose. Later you would “accidentally” touch her in a sexual spot, then touch her in a sexual spot on purpose. That is a very basic run down of it.
So I kinda have been aware of kino in many of the forms guys talk about for a long time. Vin Decarlo’s Ladder is a bit too complicated for a guy like me that just Kino Plows. I touch, see where it goes, fractionate my kino, escalate based on calibrating her – sometimes fast sometimes slow, but I do like to use, “:Let’s see if you fit” a lot and constant kino which is why I decided to post them.
Sonics is also retired which is funny. I saw that guy go from total Noob to Damn solid and then eventually get a girl, try to keep gaming for a while, then eventually that girl won him over.
He definitely had some great information to share.
I never heard of Fluid unless I did come across his stuff but since he was unknown, I didn’t catch it.
Nevertheless, most KINO methods seems to start out accidental touching and so forth.
What you laid out in this article though seems to not follow a ladder as you put it. But the scenario you gave on a D2 @ theatre, wouldn’t you consider the elbows touching on the arm rest to be accidental KINO?
Like I said, I cut right through kino escalation as soon as possible. So the answer is elbows touching would indeed be accidental.
But here’s the thing. Women are EXTREMELY aware of touching/being touched so if she’s not moving you’re good to go.
It’s like the chick who leans into you at the bar and is talking to you and her boob is touching your arm. If she doesn’t move she is actually COMPLETELY aware she is doing it.