This conference call kicked ass already.
Or the TL;DR version:
Let’s pick up the conversation I was having on an online forum. I may be of the minority that thinks or even wants Diaz to win.
http://mmaversus.com/2011/10/30/bj-penn-vs-nick-diaz-fight-video-ufc-137/ – This is Nick fighting BJ Penn and ripping him apart like no one has ever done.
I watched his fight against Carlos Condit Next which I know he lost by decision but many people think that decision was bullshit. I think Condit played more his game than Diaz did his, so sure, Condit should have got the decision in my opinion but it was hardly a good fight.
Which brings us to:
George St Pierre is to me like one of those arrogant pretend nice guys who thinks his shit doesn’t stink and I can’t wait to see him get destroyed by Diaz. GSP needs an ass kicking to tell you the truth.
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2013, 05:28 PM »
Where’s the “dislike” button? I started liking GSP when he dominated Frank Trigg. I actually think GSP is a very humble guy and carries himself in a very respectable way. Loved watching Josh Koshcheck talk a bunch of shit, GSP maintaining his composure, and then Koscheck getting his ass kicked.
The Diaz brothers are a couple of fucking pricks. I like watching them fight, but I wouldn’t want to have a beer with either of them.
GSP is going to mop the floor with Diaz and he’s going to be the classy gentleman he always is while he does it!
he Diaz brothers, Ken Shamrock, Brock Lesnar, Chris Lebon… All a bunch of loud mouth, trash talking, dicks.
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2013, 06:40 PM »
Wanna make a bet? Ill take GSP.
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2013, 08:02 PM » Quote
haha guys believe me I want Nick Diaz to win this but this fight is gonna be a repeat of the Ben Henderson Nate Diaz match. the Diaz brothers dont move their lead leg and get the shit kicked out of it.
I was a little unexcited bout this fight’s but now cause this conference call, it’s gonna be awesome!
« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 04:47 PM » Quote
I want Chael Sonnen to fight again. He is the best trash talker in the game. Super entertaining. It’s a shame he couldn’t back it up to Silva.
He could but in BOTH fights he made amateur mistakes that you simply CANNOT make against a guy the caliber of Anderson Silva.
1 mistake in BOTH fights is what cost him the win. I have no doubt that pound for pound he could take Silva IF he didn’t make the bone head mistakes like he did.
Diaz wont make boneheaded mistakes.
Also, Chael Sonnen is a Grappler. He does ground and pound but he doesn’t have much ability to play the striker game. That limits half of the game right there. When you go against someone like Anderson Silva OR Jon Jones (there have been talks about Chael vs Jones), you can’t just rely on grappling skills. You gotta be able to have some stand up game.
Now yes, Chael hammered Silva for 5 rounds in the first fight but then he was beat at his own game and submitted. If you’re relying on 1 type of game, you can’t let people beat you at it. In the second fight his poor grappling skills LOST him the fight when he tried 1 spinning backfist on Sonnen and missed and FELL. Dumb. Silva just hammered him.
Nick Diaz was a fantastic Grappler, and his first few fights that’s ALL he did. Then he picked up striking and became one of the best strikers out there, bar none.
So I doubt Pierre with his Superman Punch is going to be that effective. They are both great fighters but Already Diaz is getting into GSPs headspace and that’s where Diaz can start fucking with other fighters.
The REASON Diaz will win is because he’s hungry, while GSP is a pampered, spoiled brat.
See Rocky III
This conference call is great.
Can’t wait for the 16th.
Also Nick Diaz is doing GREAT push pull.
Also for you guys talking about Nick Diaz being an asshole or disrespectful prick. I used to have a friend of mine tell me this, he said, “Ron, you’re an asshole. But you’re an asshole to all the right people.”
http://mmaversus.com/2011/09/03/nick-diaz-vs-hayato-sakurai-fight-video-dream-14-2/ – Talk about respect…
He respects people who earn it. He doesn’t bullshit or pull punches. He tells it straight and says what’s on his mind. But when someone earns his respect he gives it.
Check out that fight above… That’s total respect.
You got Pierre saying this shit about, “Being on the dark side” for this fight, and Diaz handles that shit perfectly, by making fun of him and talking about, “I’m just keeping it real. You gotta have people tweet for you, talk for you, powder your nose and now you’re talking about all this Dark side shit.. Can’t you just be real and come out and fight?”
And GSP is saying Diaz is NOT getting into his head but if you listen to the press conference it’s apparent, that he really is, probably more so AFTER the call.
I also think the difference between Diaz and GSP is this: (the following analogy is going to make sense mostly to people who practice pickup.)
GSP is a TRAINED fighter. You can tell he comes from probably not ever having to starve, probably always had opportunity, and never had it rough. He’s like the kid that has NO skill when he got into pickup but also came from a good place, so he started learning pickup, but EVERYTHING he knows is from training and practicing.
Diaz is like the Natural kid. He already WAS a scrapper when he got into this. You can just tell, he already probably naturally got into fights when he was younger and as a matter of fact probably would have a shitty life of just going around getting into trouble and fighting IF he didn’t have his martial arts training and mma.
That being said, Diaz is like the Natural kid who starts to learn pickup, not because he needs to get better with women, but because he loves what he does already and just wants to be better at it, and understand it better.
So in my opinion, Diaz is the more dangerous opponent. He has natural game AND practiced/learned game. While GSP is just a guy who learned by practice and is NOT natural.
GSP knows that out of all the matches he had in the past that if ANYONE stands a chance to beat him it’s DIAZ. Right now, GSP is playing Diaz’s game:
- Being called out by Diaz after Nick beat Penn
- Falling into it and asking for the fight and saying, “Diaz is the most disrespectful person blah blah blah”
- Getting emotional and saying he’s going to put the biggest beating on Diaz he’s ever had. (GSP is a boring fighter. I don’t see that happening.)
- Everything GSP does, including trying to change his mindset to sound scary, mysterious, “darkside” is a REACTION to Diaz
- Diaz makes fun of GSP on the phone which is his NATURAL style, and GSP gets mad and reacts which is NOT his natural style
- Diaz also Pulls on the phone cycling through pushing and making fun of GSP then saying nice things about him – again I don’t think it’s calculated, I just think it’s Diaz’s natural style.
- Diaz makes fun of and Counters EVERYTHING GSP comes up with (you have to listen to the call to know what I’m talking about)
So Diaz and GSP are BOTH playing Diaz’s game right now. Sure the truth of the fight will happen in the ring. But Having played both martial arts and hockey growing up and being very fucking good at both of those sports, I can tell you Mental game is HUGE!
I can’t wait till this weekend.
What do you think?
Who do you think will win and why?
Share your thoughts! I wanna hear what you have to say.
- Georges St-Pierre wants to teach Nick Diaz a lesson in UFC 158 (m.si.com)
- Dana White Close to Pulling Nick Diaz from Georges St-Pierre Fight at UFC 158 (bleacherreport.com)
- UFC Star Nick Diaz Says GSP Is Crazy: ‘I Would Be Asking for Anderson Silva’ (bleacherreport.com)
- Nick Diaz Says He Can Beat 185-Pound and 155-Pound Champions After Beating GSP (bleacherreport.com)