Pickup RAW Podcast #1 – The Game of Seduction – Do You Really Want It?

30 Minutes of my awesomeness 😉  In my very first podcast I delve into the topic of wanting success.  Do you Really want it or do you just think you want it?  I discuss the difference between guys who want to succeed vs guys who think they want to, and why only 5% of guys ever become successful at pickup or seduction.  Stat tuned.  I plan on releasing a LOT of these in the future, complete with guest interviews, some awesome insights, a little community gossip or political commentary, tactics, techniques and inner game and a whole lot more!

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Enjoi

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Risk Creepy by 60yearsofchallenge

I like how sometimes articles pop into my head from discussions we’re having.  On The Midwest Lair Facebook group, a guy was talking about how Rooshv said:  “If you are being called creepy, congratulations, you just went from being asexual to repulsively sexual, which is progress” something to mull over for the new guys and a good frame spin everytime a set goes bad.”

I actually agree with this.  I replied: “It’s not that big of a deal. I’ve had at least 1 girl naked who would call me creepy when I was giving her goodsebumps and getting her horny.”

But it also reminded me of this classic post by 60yearsofchallenge – one of the best out there for pickup and seduction articles.  Without more blah blah from me, let’s get into it.

Risk Creepy

Ew, he wrote me a note, that is so creepy. Aw, he wrote me a note, that is so sweet!

Practice Creepy

Guys don’t get enough practice being seductive.

They have tons of practice being social and opening “sets” but not much practice being seductive.

If you want to be seductive you need to risk creepy. In fact, there is no way to avoid creepy. So you might as well admit it right now. You are creepy. But don’t worry, the so called “creepy” guys also get laid the most.

Don’t Fear Creepy

Using seductive eye contact, looking at her lips while thinking about kissing her, and talking really slow can put women into a sexual trance.

But women will try to scare guys off their seductive game with the threat of the “creepy” label or the “ew you’re creepy” look. And guys will never be at their seductive best if they are still scared of creepy.

Ew or Aw

The threat of creepy is a bunch of crap.

Creepy is just a TEST women use to scare clueless guys off.

If she likes you, you are sexy. If she doesn’t like you or she feels you are not in her league, then you are creepy. This can change day to day or even moment to moment. You can use the exact same eyecontact and touch on two separate girls and one will call you creepy, the other will think you are sexy.

Which is the truth?

Neither.

Realize if a woman gives you that “you’re weird” look when you shut up and hold eye contact, it really just means she is trying to break the tension because she is getting turned on.

The implication that you are creepy can also be due to her not wanting to seem like a slut. She is turned on, but she’s pretending she isn’t. She may even tell her friends later that you were hitting on her and it was creepy, but that’s only to protect her social image.

Creepy Blowout
Of course there will be times when you try to be seductive and get blownout. For example, you hold seductive eye contact but she gives you a weird look implying you are creepy. Then she gets up and moves her seat further away from you. Ouch!

But there is really nothing to fear. It’s no different than a verbal blowout. I would much rather have a creepy rejection than a verbal one.

I really enjoy creepy. In fact, I love creepy. I just love putting the pressure on her. Watching women fidget and get nervous. Awesome! I can’t wait to creep some women out tonight.

I know creepy is the label you fear.

It is the reason you hold back and don’t escalate the vibe. The reason you stay in social mode. You would rather get blown out being cocky and disinterested than with seductive eye contact. This way you can keep your cool guy rep.

Your biggest weapons for seducing her are eye-contact, moving closer and touch. And they all come with the risk of creepy.

Be seductive. Risk creepy.

The Real Meanings of Words

Guys need to get over their fear that starting a conversation with a stranger is “weird”, being seductive and escalating is “creepy” and pushing things sexually is “perverted”.

– Risk Weird

If you are being social and start conversations some women will try and test you by saying or implying that you are weird for doing so. Or they will give you that “this is weird” look. Not every guy has the confidence to approach a woman, but it’s definitely not weird.

– Risk Creepy

When you are being seductive women will try to scare you off with the fear of creepy.

– Risk Perverted

When you are being sexually aggressive women will try to test you by calling or implying that you are a pervert. As if this is a bad thing. Yet many guys are scared of the pervert label as it conjures up images of an old guy jerking off in a porno booth. You want to be a pervert.

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Zan Perrion’s Notes – A Must Read for Anyone Interested in Seduction or even Dating

I am on a post stealing frenzy finding good shit that has been buried and may never see the light of day again (this is from the blog www.becomingapua.com) – go ahead.  Click on it.  You will see that it no longer exists.  I am simply playing the following card:

But this is all PURE GOLD or I wouldn’t even bother to post this. If you are new or you are medium or even advanced this post it fucking gold. Read it, own it, love it.  Love on it if you want.  I don’t judge. 😉

If you are a man or a woman you will see the value in this post.  It’s written from a guy TO girl perspective, however, I am sure my women readers will get why this is a good post for both guys and dolls.

Enjoi. Some of the stuff in here is well known by many. Some of it is not. But the mindset and the way he says it is why I like it. We should already know this. We DO already know this. But sometimes we forget or we don’t believe it’s true.

So girls, guys, comment on this.  I wanna know if you agree, disagree or have some cool ass additions. ~Ronnie L

Themesong:

Zan Perrion’s Notes

Who doesn’t know Zan Perrion? If you don’t know Zan then you don’t belong in the community. The guy is a modern day Casanova, but he considers himself a modern day Voltaire. Here are his notes on getting women:

Notes: 

    – Why do we hesitate when we see a pretty girl walking towards us. We want to walk up to her and say, “Hi, I’m _____.” Why do we not do that? FEAR OF REJECTION.
    – We are afraid she’ll reject us as a man. We feel she’ll validate our manliness.
    – We’re conditioned. It hurts to approach.
    – We could all draw, sing, etc. when we were four years old. In school we compare ourselves to others that we are not good enough.
    – Everything you want, everything you desire is outside your comfort zone. If it wasn’t, we’d already have it.
    – No matter what the girl says we turn around and say “I’m not tall enough, rich enough . . .? She doesn’t have to reject us. We’ve already rejected ourselves.
    – We allow her to live rent free in our heads. We allow her to dictate our day.
    – We’ve already rejected ourselves, she’s just agreeing.
    – Most girls ask, “What do you do for a living?” to find out what we believe we are.
    – We have the right to say hello to her. We are men. We stand on the earth.
    – When asking girls, they say “Where are all the real men, men who believe who they are?”
    – What kind of girls put men in LJBF (lets just be friends) zone? Trick question, we put ourselves in the LJBF zone. In the way we talk, stand . . .
    – We feel, especially in North America, that we can’t show our sexuality cause it’ll make them uncomfortable.
    – Women are desperate for men who know who they are, what they want, no resumption and how dare we take that away from her.
      5 Categories Women Put Guys In:
      1. Guy is giving me a creepy feeling
      2. Completely indifferent
      3. Guys nice. Friend zone
      4. This guy is potential. Potential relationship
      5. I could jump in bed with this guy
    – He tells a girl right away what he wants, “I’m not like any man you’ve ever met, there is something about you, though I don’t know what it is.”
    – Without neediness/clinginess
    – You have a name and you didn’t think you have the right to talk to a girl?
    – In your direct bloodline your relative carried a sword, and you’re afraid of talking to a girl?
    – Women want men to approach them as sexual creatures.
    – How does a woman know you’re honest? By telling them you’re honest. “I’m not going to just be friends with you, why look at you?”

– Guys who are good with women are cause they are at ease with themselves. We get to choose

    – Opening line isn’t key. It’s approaching. You can never love women if you don’t love yourself. You can manipulate them but not love them.
    – Women will only feel cheated if you misrepresented how long the relationship will be
    – The goal is to have women as friends in your life.
    – NEVER KISS AND TELL, cause it’s respect. You don’t have to worry about your reputation, but she does.
    – The whole concept to him is that if you misrepresent yourself, you’ve cheated her (i.e. buying her affection)
    – If a girl says, “Are you asking me out?” You say, “Of course I am, look at you.”
    – Girls want guys who know what they want.
    – LEAD! NEVER FOLLOW.
    – It’s stating who you are without apology. Stand in your place.
    – All women are your girls. You make that girl shine, cause that’s who you are.
    – If they look hot, it’s a gift to you. Make them feel pretty, and they’ll never forget you
    – Zan never approaches a woman with a goal of getting her on a date, #, etc. His goal is he likes pretty girls, you’re just in the moment with her.
    – A phone # voluntarily given to you will mean she’ll answer
    – Trust the process. The fact you know you’re a man. Cause you have the right
    – Never respond to their challenge. They are fantastic at acting offended. Just say, “What are you talking about?” Laugh it off, play it off.
    – Never dial yourself down. It’s your mission to make them feel beautiful.
    – We are driven by our obligations (i.e. more money)
    – Be pulled through life by a vision of what you want
    – You don’t have to do anything
    – Women like nice guys, cause they are so attentive.
    – They don’t like clinginess of guys.
    – We have no interesting life cause we choose not to. Never let a girl push you backwards.
    – You’ll have women in your life if you believe that and it’s your choice.
    – Decide today who you’re going to be, don’t cheat women out of it. That’s what women want in men.
      Story
      – He mentors guys all over the world. I don’t know how to escalate into sexual mode. He doesn’t do anything cause he’s there from the beginning. Cause he lets them know who he is. She’ll say, “I have a boyfriend”, you say “Of course you do, look at you.”
      – When he talked to an engaged girl he knew she couldn’t go out with him and she knew he couldn’t go out with her, so he said, “I know, but isn’t it fun to think about?: Make her feel pretty and smile. You’ll get girls giving you #’s and begging them cause you make them feel alive.
    – Respect them and have fun.
    – I.e. “You look great in that dress.”
    – Never defend. If she says, why did you leave me to talk to her, say, “Of course, did you look at her!?”

    – Everything you do with a woman should be enormous fun. Smile and wink at everyone.
    – Don’t be aggressive and presumptuous. You have to be sincere. ALWAYS BE HONEST. But always lie, but get caught in the lie. It should be fun, fun for you and her.
    – Women are able to sniff out your motives from afar.
    – Never mask your desires, without presumption.
    – Doesn’t mean you’ll sleep with her, but emit that sexual energy.
    – How do you break up with a girl? He never breaks up with a girl, he’s just not around
      Two Tracks In A Woman’s Mind
      1. Her desire for security, comfort, longevity, safety, children.
      2. Just as valid and just as cirtical to her living. Passion, whirlwind, romance novels.
    – Ideally she wants both tracks from one guy
    – If she just has 1 track, she’ll seek out the 2nd track. It’s nature.
    – Zan is a dreamer. He believes in women, and makes them believe in themselves.
    – Women crave romance novels as much as they crave water and air.
    – Take a woman on an emotional adventure. Cause everything in life is an adventure. It’s the concept of believing in adventure, cause they will too.
    – Start with your intention. You won’t apologize for who you are. You have the right to be who you are.
    – Why is it so important that the interaction is important? The opening line isn’t important. The thing that gives him the most fulfillment is the interaction with every girl. If you make the moment important you will get phone #’s and you will get girls wanting to sleep with you.
    – Every interaction should be sexual though not aggressive.
      Problem
      – we make long term promises on short term emotions
      Job
      – “I’m a treasure hunter, I’m on a mission.”
      – “I give women pleasure”
    – He loves the interaction/chemistry
    – Stand up, be a man, be honest
    – Understand what you want and be honest with her.
    – Lots of compassion for women all the bad things and good things created who you are today. Maybe those bad things, if they never existed, would not make you who you are today. You were attractive enough for me to approach today. You get to choose your steps tomorrow.
    – Choose from this day forward who you are
    – Everything is a choice. I’m not reacting to things that happened in my past. Get rid of the people in your life that drag you down.
    – Delight – If she’s not feeling like a queen. Then I’m not feeling like a King.
    – Grace – Move through life with grace.
    – He doesn’t work to get a girl, he wants girls who delight in life like he does.