Constant Kino and A Short Cut Through Kino Escalation

So much to add to my blog and so little time.  I gotta give people some breath, however I feel that my blog now is evolving based on my students’ needs and that’s cool by me.  But you don’t give a shit about all that 😉  On to the good stuff.

Another Article by Sonics – This time:

Subject: Constant Kino
Date: January 25th, 2008 02:36:44 PM (EST)

Author: sonics

Themesong:

(I got a question about Constant Kino on another forum, I started answering it and this is what came out… thought I’d post it for your guy’s eyes too.)

First off, Constant Kino isn’t really anything new… I just named it because it’s something I’ve noticed myself doing and I thought with a name it’d be easier for people to understand and able to help them more. I’m sure many of you readers have been doing this naturally forever; but this is for the guys who that haven’t been.

This isn’t like Mehow’s Pure Kino, which is like doing the trust test or a palm reading (I don’t read palms; but palm reading is an example of a Pure Kino Routine), Constant Kino is your legs touching each other’s while doing the palm read and remains constant after the palm read is over.

The actual constant thing doesn’t start until you actually know the girl a little… really, a half hour after knowing someone doesn’t mean you KNOW them know them; but that’s about how long it takes to get to this point, in most cases… you meet a girl get to know her then all of a sudden you guys are always touching…

It is by all means perfect for alone time, alone meaning just you and her. Day 2 stuff, special case bar girls : ), or maybe there just isn’t any room for anything but for Constant Kino to take place, like you met a girl while you were seated at a party on a packed couch.

It’s all in the name; you are constantly touching her, think of it as always having some kind of kino going on. Not you just keep touching her here and there throughout the interaction. You are always, constantly, touching her and she is always touching you as well by default, many times it will be the girl initiating it.

Think of subtle long lasting kino as the bottom line of this.

Say you’re watching a movie in the theatres (which still works as a completely acceptable day 2) and you guys are sharing an armrest with your elbows and forearms against one an others, or maybe your knees are touching.

That’s weak and basic but still what I mean by Constant Kino. I just wrote that example as a final way for you to have an idea of what it is you’re reading about.

I think of PDA as a public display. Constant Kino, while having many of the same “moves,” isn’t really for others to see. While PDA is Constant Kino, Constant Kino is also a term that explains what the lasting kino is when no one else is there to see. PDA should never stop, the people just need to leave : )

Like when you’re at one of your houses on the couch and she throws her feet on your lap or say you guys are cuddling. Like in my HBBcup LR, where our legs were touching while I was standing at the table, no one else could see, it wasn’t even a big deal, it was just happening, purposely.

Once you have Constant Kino going, and if the situation allows it PDA, sex is inevitable. The comfort and familiarity with touching each other has been going on since you first started hanging out, it’s then only natural to full close. You don’t need it; but when I’m running solid game Constant Kino is always there.

If you think about the word “Constant” you’ll remember to be doing it. Now you can sometimes draw attention to it; but for the most part it’s something neither of you two should be thinking about… which is kind of a contradiction since I told you to remember the term; just don’t make a big deal out of it happening while you’re making it happen.

This will sound a little AFC to the new guys; but think of you and the girl temporarily sharing your world, kino and all; that’s where you want to be. Get her here and it’s crazy what chicks will do.

OBVIOUSLY, you shouldn’t and can’t always be touching the girl. Leave the girl every once and awhile with her friends or your friends, then when you come back go Constant Kino again. Keep it subtle and discrete, not always PDA. The only person that really needs to know about the kino is the girl herself. That goes for all kino really. You don’t have to or even really want to be claiming the girl in front of others, unless you can tell that that’s what she wants. (Anybody with a decent level of female facial calibration will be able to tell if you’re claiming her to show the guy talking to her, (if her eyes stay locked on you while a guy is claiming her, she’s telling you to keep going) this just makes me lose respect for the guys. I used to be that guy)

Constant Kino is a shared thing, if the girl isn’t receptive yet, wash rinse and repeat later. That I suppose is where the escalation in this comes into play. Say you’re on a day 2 at the mall and you go for the hand hold, she’s not feelin’ it, you drop her hand. You do it again, she’s still not really feelin’ it, and you drop it again. A little later, for a third time you’re walking slightly in front of her, you go for it and she holds onto two and a half of your fingers like she’s been your chick for the last year. (Take her someplace secluded and go Constant Kino with your body parts (legs, arms, feet, back of hands, palms, etc.)… and escalate.)

It’s all the places you would normally touch; you’re just doing it constantly letting the kino continue.

Try this once you get the Constant Kino going: after you’ve been touching each other for a few hours break it off for no reason and watch her come back in or ask you “what’s wrong?”

Remember kino is a reward. If she’s bothering you in anyway, no kino!! Be playful with it, while making it something you just do.

Like I wrote at the top of this post, I’m sure a lot of you guys are doing this already, now, if you weren’t already, you can consciously add to your already existing skills in this area. This was more for the people that weren’t doing it already… Keep it constant guys… it’ll help.

Ways I’ve initiated the Constant Kino:

1) tickle attacks to snuggle kino

2) “Let’s see if you fit”

3) random hand placement (if you’re in her car just reach over and put your hand on her leg)

4) Grab her hands and put them on you

5) move her body parts (leg on top of your leg when side by side)

6) all sorts of close close proximity types

7) just the tips of your shoes

8 ) hand on her lower back

9) start it on the dance floor!!

10) Hugs with a spin into proximity shoulders touching

Thanks for reading.

If you have any relevant questions… fire away

-Sonics

Sidecar:

Subject: “Lets see if you fit…” *A shortcut through Kino Escalation*
Date: July 13th, 2007 07:32:34 PM (EDT)

Author: sonics

A Sonics original (to the best of my knowledge at least) … enjoy

*A short cut through Kino escalation*

This will help you get to that point of pushing the interaction towards a make out, or a ONS, or potential girlfriend, or FB, whatever… here it is, fun and easy:

“Let’s see if you fit”

Use this after you both like each other. Could be instant or it could be after awhile, no interaction is the same, it could be after you isolate, a lot of the time, for me, it’s after very little Kino has been exchanged or before any Kino has been established at all, you both wanna touch each other, this just helps that happen…

You’re sitting next to her and you make space for her to scoot in under your arm to do a sit up cuddle and say “let’s see if you fit” then you guys do a sit up cuddle.

Or

Simply stand next to her and say “Let’s see if you fit” with an arm out as if you’re inviting her to come in. Have her step in under your arm with your arm on her lower back…

Or

Hold out your hand and say “let’s see if it fits” and hold her hand, fingers interlocked below the waist in a “we’ve been dating” kind of way.

This has been field tested by me for the last month and a half and the girl will ALWAYS come in to see if she fits! So far for me anyway, and that’s a lot of different girls auditioning for the fit. Remember this is after attraction, the majority of the time it’s after all those IOI’s, after those shared stories, after you’ve felt each other out and feel comfortable with each other, most importantly when it feels right. I’ve yet to F this up; but probably will one day who knows. It’s worked for the guys I’ve told already too, so, if you want, I’m sure it will work for you too.

Make sure to act as if it’s no big deal, and just continue being yourself and doing the same thing you were doing before the Kino.

This is just one way and probably the best LINE so far I’ve found to initiate Constant Kino, which is huge in my game. I know it’s a line; but once you get here a couple times you’ll be able to think of a thousand different ways to get Constant/Comfort Kino.

This is perfect for the time spent together at the bar after a number close, or walking down the street to a new venue, and standard in isolation.

This is not the time to say no you don’t fit and throw her away, unless of course you still feel like playing and aren’t ready to take that step… cough <wuss> cough This is the beginning of your new playfully enjoyable and shared world. Think “couple Kino.”

Happy Flower Picking,

-Sonics

Sidecar II:  

I chose The Stooges because last night I was writing this at a bar in Chicago where I decided to go, and finish up work and at least give myself an opportunity to open sets while I was working.   Sooo.  Once I finished doling out homework, answering emails and posting this, this song came on so I made it the themesong.  PS – I like Iggy Pop and the Stooges anyway.

Did you know he actually helped fund and pay for the air conditioner for a place called Sweat Records in Miami, which is a Record Store that doubles as a coffeeshop?

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RSVP: An In-Field How-To Guide for Fast Social Circle Game

(This is like FAST Social Circle style game created by one of my Wings back when I was in Detroit. This post was also posted on the Mastermind section of masf back in the day. ~Ronnie)

Themesong:

by Sonics (retired) » November 15th, 2009, 4:05 pm
RSVP: An In-Field How-To Guide

Disclaimer: This Was Written For Educational Purposes Only

For my fellow deep thinkers in shallow thought:

When I’m out gaming I have two main ways of playing: Moment Game which is more of a solo feel or RSVP, which is a group oriented thing that I like to do, or an everybody I’m with gets to play type thing… RSVP is much more tangible as you’ll hopefully see

RSVP is my natural process, at least what my natural pull from the venue process has become… just assigned an acronym to it, once I found the acronym not only did my game improve but you can cut the process down to 30 seconds and pull girls around the venue, very consistently. It by no means is something to live by or to use as a strict rule, but for certain aspects of game, for me, it’s a good guideline.

Think of RSVP as a routine pick-up or a routine bounce. The process and result becomes routine.

My Goal with This Post:

To have everyone (that wants to) reading this with a basic skill set be able to do a 5-30 second RSVP Quick Bounce tonight.

RSVP:

Basic Skill Level:

Eye Contact, Smile, Good Body Language, Loud Enough, Un-limiting Beliefs (at least the belief that RSVP will work… it does, trust)

Hopeless newbies, if they truly exist, can pull this off with a little willingness and some guidance… I’ve gotten one of the most socially awkward guys I’ve ever seen to do this first try, he stumbled through the process and got even more nervous as soon as it worked, like “holy shit, this girl is smiling and following me to the table” nervous… pretty funny in a proud way (Hopeless newbies are only hopeless if they aren’t willing, my anxiety was much worse than his when I got started, I had it bad)

I wrote this as if I were a newbie with only basic community knowledge reading it, so the post came out LONG, IOW this post is very much a “how-to”

The quick bounce might feel mechanical at first but once you get the hang of it “or get the training wheels off” aka being able to improvise it and forgetting about the RSVP structure altogether it becomes fluid and second nature and also a great tool for the field, if you choose to you’ll be used to pulling girls around the venue to a table with you in no time… have fun with it… run the structure, attain the belief, and, if you can, forget you ever read this…

RSVP Quick Bounce in its rawest simplest form:

First have your friends/wings take a seat somewhere… then… go up to a set

PUA: Hey what’s up, you guys having a good night?
HBs: yeah
PUA: I’m actually sitting over there with my friends… let me see your hand [grabs HB’s hand, spin/twirls her around] You know what… you guys are actually pretty cool, come on [pulls set to table]

It’s that easy.

Further explanation below…

RSVP:

Rapport
Seed
Value
Pull

RSVP Quick Bounce:

5-30 second in Venue Group Bounces/Pulls:

In-venue…

Indirect will pull the SET…

If you go direct, mean it and make sure you calibrate it, calibrate everything, it still works consistently and if you’re comfortable with that then that’s the route I recommend you go… I’d save the actual direct interest (SOI) until your back at the table with a second set; but do what you want, you’re going to anyway

Indirect will pull the SET

The Quick Bounce is a group conscious social (on the surface) thing, meaning you’re taking care of your friends while simultaneously setting yourself up with your target. It also gets people involved that might not have been involved otherwise, guys with wicked AA or your non-pickup friends that don’t approach get to chat and possibly hook-up with some girls too… girls want to be social, remember that.

How-To:

(The following are the Steps followed by numbered examples (all field tested) but I encourage you to think of your own and once you get a feel for it freestyle your quick bounces)

Rapport:

Is Assumed… In the quick bounce you’re most likely not going to hit real rapport as soon as you walk up, just do or say something that someone in rapport would do or say… Feels like–> Same page, welcome, cool, chill, mutual, small teases will open the door to rapport… calibrate to the vibe, energy, environment, and maturity level of the set then do/say something like one of the following:

1) Introduce yourself
2) “What’s up”
3) “How ya guys doing?”

Seed:

1) TC while Seeding the pull/bounce/isolation
2) “Real quick… I gotta get back to my friends”
3) “I only have a second, my friends and I got a table”

*TC not needed

Value:

(Own the set at this point (smile) all eyes on you)

The following are some ways to Give Value with some examples:
(You only need ONE of the examples for the V part… Just pick one or two of the examples (or use your own), string them together then pull the set)

Cold/Warm Read

1) You’re the one that’s going to find fun, you’re the one that’s going to take all the fun as it comes, and you… wait, who are you… you’re either the shy one or the driver
2) You guys look like you’re out for a chill night
3) You guys have some Crazy energy

Group Name

1) Charlie’s Angels
2) The Brady Bunch
3) Tyra’s Top Models (intro to your group with sarcastic laughter “just kidding, but you guys are pretty cute” pull–>push–>pull)

Individual Nicknames

1) Mary and Poppins
2) Tweedle Dee and Tweedle… Well [nod knowingly]
3) Cherry & Vanilla/ Cookies & Cream

Good Kino

1) Hand hold
2) Leading her from lower back
3) Couple Kino
4) Playful Push

Role Plays

1) OMG!! Hide Me!!
2) Employee of the month
3) Body Guards
4) Instant Dates/Group Date

Spin Moves

1) Grab/Hold hand and spin her (super simple and effective)
2) Group Spins

State Pumps

1) Social Circle Cheers
2) Improv Game (TD’s thing)
3) Ninja/Bear/Cowboy
4) Any fun/funny thing you can think of that they do with you

Teach Her/Them Something

1) Limes in Coronas

Genuine Interest/Direct

1) You guys have a really cool style, I just wanted to stop and hi
2) My god, you’re beautiful…

Giving A Piece of Yourself (info about you)

1) I just got down here from xxx
2) I’m on vacation

Pull:

Don’t ask, and lead…

1) You know what, you guys are pretty cool, I want you to meet some of my friends
2) You know what, follow me
3) Come with me
4) C’mon

Token resistance is common, especially if you’re doing the 10 second version… just smile and say “C’mon… C’mon” DO NOT STEP BACK TOWARDS THE SET… I’ve seen guys do this… WRONG (there are exceptions to this; but for the most part DO NOT STEP BACK TOWARDS THE SET)

There might be a small amount of fluff between the steps and the more value you give them the more enthused they are about the pull; but the above only lasts for about 30 seconds and you own a set… they follow you to where you’re going.

During the move around the venue you can do the arm in arm thing that Mystery talks about or grab one or more of their hands to lead them to where you’re going, or arm around one’s back hand hold the other (like Group Couple Kino (Insta-Dates/Group Date Role Play)), or if it’s super busy have them all interlock arms or hold hands and pull them through the crowd

Make sure to accomplishment intro your friend(s) on the way to the table.

The set is now yours to play with, they lock in with you, tone it down and GET TO KNOW YOUR TARGET, by the time you’re at the table the Kino is ideally Constant (Constant Kino)

Do this a few times and you and your friends have an in-venue party. You become the sets’ base group. It’s neat when girls you’ve known for a minute make sure their friends stay with you to keep themselves locked in…

The first set you bring back ALWAYS likes you more when you bring the second set… it’s beautiful… if it’s your first time pulling more than one set to your table, sit back and watch the dynamic when you get the chance, it’s pretty… this is also when it gets fun. Make it quick, 10 minutes max to getting the sets there. They never know what’s going on… lol …it’s a mixer… Isolating from one of these groups is simple

You don’t necessarily need a table, just a lock-in place (like a wall) or if it’s a chill place get your friends by a pool table… but know that the girls will psychologically lock-in if you have a table and you’ll get that group vibe close quarters jealousy plot as well… (a table/place to sit is better than an area where everyone stands, unless you’re just dropping off an obstacle(s) then it doesn’t matter.)

Your Social Value/Proof in the room sky rockets, especially amongst your sets. (If appropriate, sprinkle in some compliance based state pumps to keep the party going)

RSVP in its Rawest, Simplest, Least Fun, Yet Effective Form:

PUA: Hey what’s up, you guys having a good night?
HBs: yeah (R)
PUA: I only have second, I’m sitting over there with my friends (S)… but here, let me see your hand [grabs HBs hand, spin/twirls her/them around] You know what… you guys are actually pretty cool (V), come on, I want you to meet my friends [pulls set to table] (P)

…10 seconds

Like I said earlier it might feel mechanical at first, but you’ll get the hang of it (it’s actually kind of fun to act like a robot when doing it)

The Behavior Rule:

Everybody knows the 3-Second rule… That’s great if you’re just starting off or you haven’t been out in awhile to just get a set out of the way and your nerves at bay; but for RSVP (or IMO all aspects of pick-up) it’s Not Always the best route.

Quickly observe the sets behavior: high-energy, low-energy, sleepy, chatty, super happy, bored, deep rapport, fun night out, their body language, sitting, standing, moving, mixed, waiting, bouncing, looking around, empty drinks, texting, dancing, swinging bottles… I admit that that takes much less than 3 seconds… instantly at a glance you guys should know what’s up or at least have a general idea of what’s going on in their set (if you don’t have this ability yet, just keep going into sets and it’ll happen over time, observe guess and go)

The reason I like the behavior rule more is because if the sets behavior tells you they’re waiting for a drink and you apply the 3-second rule you’ll be up at the bar with them waiting to buy a drink… if the competition is fierce go ahead, but if it’s a chill environment just wait it out.

Ideally standing sets with full drinks are best for this, they’re everywhere and require little to no effort on your part for the actual pull.

Do the in-venue quick bounce a couple times and you’ll get a feel for it.

Just remember standing sets are easier to move around, obviously, because they’re already standing. (Standing girls are also easier to disappear with for the same reason)

Troubleshooting:

If you’re getting a lot of hesitation when you do this it could be a couple things, some things to remember when doing this:
1) Smile
2) Have fun
3) String/stack some of your ways to give/assign value
4) Only Give Value
5) Make sure you’ve observed the whole set
6) Calibrated to their energy, the environment, perceived maturity, and vibe
7) It Works Belief (I truly believe that every standing set wants to quick bounce)
Seating does become a problem during the weekend… use your head on this one/improvise
9) Learn as you go… play with it… be charming and learn as you go, this is a simple process. You can all do this tonight…

**For the real pull**

This is how RSVP originated (I wrote a post called “After Party Routine” about a year ago, this is what I was unknowingly doing minus the P, it was all time-bridged and it still works; but personally I like this more because of quality time and the venue changing) It’s a little bit harder to explain in specific detail because every set is different… super simple to do but a little tough to explain. You’re hitting rapport, dropping your seed, openly sharing/exchanging value, then pulling out of the venue based on your seed planted earlier or your new plan… simple as that. Don’t think about it, just do it. I’ve gotten a lot of sex from this.

In short:

RSVP Out of Venue Pull:

(Set/target leaves out of the venue with you to new place or destination)

No quick bounce or wings necessary, not necessarily linear (RSVP to a table or join a set, then RSVP out of the venue (only one playable set needed), standing sets are easier to move around, seated sets are easier to pick up (for me at least))

Most important thing to remember, when you’re going to venue change or pull out of the venue, that many people I’ve been out gaming with seem to disregard is to STAY IN SET… why the hell do people keep ejecting out of sets? Unless you get blown-out or are ejecting for a legitimate or tactical reason, STAY IN YOUR SETS. Growth/knowledge/calibration will come from staying in your sets and seeing it through. You’ll learn which sets are wasting your time by staying in sets that had wasted your time; likewise, you’ll learn which sets are worth your time by staying in set and seeing it through. Use your little head and your gut to decide on whether or not to eject… Premature-Ejectulation is not a blow-out; it’s avoidable and non-productive on so many levels. Just stay in set… You don’t need game with flash to get ass… trust me. If the set wants to pull, your game is done, at that point feel free to wander… until then STAY IN SET…

How-To:
(The steps)

Rapport:

Hooked set, set likes you, same page, cool with each other, real, smooth sailing, chill, friends with potential benefits feel, good vibes, mutual, relaxed, comfortable, locked-in, remember small teases open the door to rapport

Seed the pull:

Near the beginning drop your seed to plant the pull and also to check for enthusiasm. This also involves getting their logistics, or figuring out what their plans are for the near future. If the logistics are seriously bad, time-bridge and move on

Sharing/Exchanging Value:

Run the set for however long you feel necessary, exchange stories, get to know each other, enjoy yourself and play your game… talking/hanging out

Pull:

The group is ready to pull when all the girls (only the girls you want to pull) are putting in effort or have invested effort into the interaction with you, along with other social observations like empty drinks and closing time

Pull the set by bringing up the seed and leaving the venue or by going along with a new plan (going with them for instance) Many times the girls will WANT to leave with you. Going to their/her place is better and more consistent. If driving is involved either get in the car with them or have a wing jump in with them to help with directions… The sets impression of your wings does depend on whether or not they will pull… so, have good wings or don’t get them involved

(ATTAIN THE BELIEF and forget the structure.)

Once you have the belief and you know what to look for in BL, their effort, and vibe, pulling becomes second nature.

IF The Set Will Not Pull:

Watch the set when you go for the pull (really always be focused)… then, if they aren’t going to pull, time-bridge if they hesitate too much to pull and/or also if you have an actual time constraint to be somewhere… time-bride her/them based on your seed or topic in your conversation…

Regularly succeed at a goal (in this case pulling) and you’ve created a skill…

Have Fun,

-Sonics

 

Questions, comments or just some love…  As Always

The Burlesque Dancer and the Dream Cruise

Tsod:

So, We have to take a quick break from Rainbow Dash for a minute because I’m working with a student right now, and I am trying to teach him a few subtleties to his game that I feel this Report has in it. This is a report about open to close. I wont say much about it because, already, it’s pretty long. Keep in mind, I wrote this when I was a bit younger.  I probably have a lot different mindset back then.  Enjoi

by Geese Howard » August 19th, 2007, 8:58 pm

My Field Reports are long so grab yourself some tea, coffee, or a snack if you are actually gonna read this. Cigarettes are cool too and for you Highons its cool if you smoke a little but dont get so high that you cant remember anything.

So its 1:30 and I haven’t heard of one person joining me for the Dreamcruise so I decide to head out anyways and take Mr. Poop for a walk.

I walk for a few minutes and as always Poop is pulling massive attraction. Its kinda hard to have Poop as a wingman. Sometimes people are checking him out, not even paying the least bit of attention to me. Every once in a while, though it pays off. Not today however.

I walk and see 0 sets. Its early. all the hot chicks are still hungover or having their last bit of sex before they go home to get ready to go out.

Eventually I see this chick whos ok. Shes the Medical marijuana chick. I say simply, “Youre from Flint.”

“Yes I am.”

We talk for a minute and she mentions her husband or something but I just keep blabbing about ppl from flint. I had no interest in this chick at all and was doing warm ups. However, I did notice something. I started moving slowly and she was walking with me talking. She asked my name.

I decided to run an expirement. I stopped and she stopped and we talked some more. I didn’t bust her for asking my name, I simply told her. More BS then I started moving slowly to see. Yep, she moved with me some more. Soon she was asking my name again. Then I busted on her about smoking too much dope giving her ‘No Term’ memory.

Soon another person came up who was interested in signing the petition so I moved on. PS I had made it clear from the get go that I had already signed the petition at DEMF to rule out any possibility of the interaction being about her trying to get me to sign.

I walked some more. I see this chick walking by a few minutes later with her dog. Im eating but want to approach so I start doing the stalk. Me and Dillon totally Stalked chicks at DEMF trying to make it seem like we werent at all following them and then opening them pretty successfully once they stopped. I did the same here. Im walking along at a distance kind of happening along the same path she was but soon enough Mr Poop fucks it all up. A lady walks up and says, “OMG you have a Bulldog! I have a boxer! Can I pet him? Will he bite me?”

Yes.

I always say yes if someone asks if my dog bites them in the context of “Can I pet him?”

Or if they ask if they can pet him I say, “No.”

But Im kidding and usually I say that after the look of disappointment crosses their face.

This lady didnt care. She pet him anyways. So I Stopped and chatted and my Target disappeared.

Oh well.

So I walked after a few minutes up to woodward looking for a place to chill, have a drink and tie Poop up to the railing outside so we both could relax.

I see a semi cute 2 set and another semi cute 3 set in a full outside area. I open the closest 2 set.

“Can you guys do me a favor? I need you to drink your drinks down real fast and get outta here so I can have your table.” 🙂

Cute girl one: “Oh you want this table?”

Nothing really interesting went on with these two. I really did just want their table, but the one on the right had big boobs and was drunk already from the night before. I talked and busted on them a little and the whole interaction was fun. Something Funny happened and I totally got the one friend to laugh at the other friend about something but my combination of quick with and absentmindedness sometimes doesnt quite pay off when I want to rememeber something cool I said.

So Im facing away from them a little and I see a chick walk by. 5’8″ or so, nice body, red hair dyed, perky, big looking boobs, pretty face and kind of that punk/bettie page/retro look that does it for me.

Walking…

Here she comes…

I have three seconds to come up with that intriguing, kickass, Im the alpha, engaging opener that will stop her dead in her tracks and make her want to come over and have sex with me…

I look, she’s wearing a blue shirt with a Felix the Cat on it.

Brilliant Opener here it comes… Shes close enough to hear me.

“Hey you have Felix the Cat on your shirt!”
(I specifically remembered this for you opener fixated guys out there.)

HBSproket: Yep. (as she keeps walking barely looking at me)
Me: Because I like Felix the cat and always used to want to watch it when I was a kid. (Fucking Mr Smooth talker right now :oops: )

But the whole time Im picturing Lovedrops Ass on the MM vids saying, “… and the next time he was in set he just stayed where he was and leaned back and kept talking louder… and louder…” So I stood. I didn’t turn with her as she walked by and I kept getting louder and simply turned my head as I talked my Wonderful opener, and guess what? She stopped. She was four feet past me and just like that miss, “I could really give a fuck about what youre saying right now” mysteriously Stopped and turned a little to face me.

I successfully stopped a moving target like they told us was not too likely in the Juggler workshop. Not that I agreed but Ive heard alot of the Guru types say how hard it is to stop a moving target because the only thing on their mind is their destination. Of course RJ says the key is to break their state. Then Lovedrop says, “If I see guys following a moving set, You’re Out! Trust me You’re Out!”

So I asked her if she’s even ever watched Felix the Cat before while simultaneousy turning somewhat to face her.

HBSproket: Yea
Me: Bullshit! Dude I looked all over the TV when I was a kid and I could never find it.

HB: I did watch it. (Smiling a little.)
Me: What channel did you see it on?

And we’re off. So We have a minute conversation about Felix the Cat. IMHO it wasnt anything that was being said that made a fuck of a difference. My next brilliant thread was about something I cant even remember and possibly about DreamCruise stuff and mostly fluff the I asked her where she was headed. OK sure I was being a little smart ass and doing some Cockyfunny but my state was good and so it made for a good state. Keep in mind the warmups. We talked for about 4 minutes.

So she tells me she’s headed to the WAB. I tell her, “Well then I guess you’re fucked.”

HB: Why?
ME: Because I just walked by there a minute ago and they’re having some Private Party. Thats why Im standing here waiting for these two girls to leave so I can snag a table. (mentally I said it on purpose to see if she would bite – she did)
HB: Then you want some company?
Me: No. (smile)
(and I say it really child like when I say a stupid No to a chick, like Not real loud but deep and forceful and bratty.)
Just kidding, you can join me, just dont get any ideas. (you know this last part might or might not be what I said but it was something to that effect Im sure of it.)

So I tell her to grab the table as the chicks miraculously get up at the exact right moment. So she does and I tie up Mr Poop to the rail and we sit.

We drink Bloody Mary’s and I playfully bust on the waitress and Mr Poop is doing his job as a wingman getting everyone to talk to me and making me shine as a social guy. People are taking pictures of him and girls are asking me about him and so on and my target who I sporadically talk to and then ignore at intervals sits and orders food and we sip away at Bloody Marys and have a good time.

Most of the interaction went naturally for a while for me. I riffed. I do that alot. Then I was running out of stuff to say.

Times that she asked me personal stuff I ducked and dodged.

HB: Where did you move from?
Me: I don’t think we’ve reached the point in the relationship yet where we can talk about that kinda stuff yet. We’re still on small talk.

So it was going OK. I wasnt exactly seducing her I dont think. Until.

Me: talking about blah blah then stopping and looking around as if thinking: “Isnt it interesting how everyone is so different yet in so many ways we’re all the same?”

HB: Well I guess so but I don’t think that applys to everyone. Blah Blah Blah.

Me: I know but I’ve moved around alot in my time and I grew up in Europe at a young age. (I went into my Grew up in Europe Memory Routine that is my real experience and really didnt start out as a routine but I realised I always tell the story in a good set. Comfort I suppose.)

Then I totally Tangent out and am off and gone for a minute talking about people. Then I reopen the Pattern Thread and continue.

“I mean… Hmm. Ok! For example. I dunno what it is you do when you decide for yourself that you wanna be with someone… And so on…”

I get to the part about connecting so strongly with and she says, “Yea but That doesn’t really happen very often.”

But up until that point I could SEE her trance. I guess they call it DDB. So I didnt freak I simply turned it back on.

You’re right. I dont think it happens very often to me either, but sometimes you just meet this person that your talking to and something just clicks and you can just feel that connection. Now, with me Its different… Blah Blah Blah you get the point. The Key to NLP IMO is twofold. They say use the patterns as guidelines to make up your own language. I say use the patterns like a written song and then riff off of them like Jimi Hendrix Playing the National Anthem at Woodstock or ‘Gloria’ for that matter.

Back to the pattern and finish.

She starts opening up and talking about stuff like that and somehow something she said reminded me of the Incredible Connection pattern somewhere a little into it so aRiffing I go into the middle of the pattern and I can see her trance back on.
BAM! (Like Emeril.)

I honestly believe the more I use patterns that they are powerful motherfuckers. I even believe I have a natural tendancy to induce trance with them because I actually believe that EVERY time I do one I notice a difference in the chick and how she responds afterwords.

So far its just the connections pattern but HERE is the SMALL detail that forwarded the interaction to the next step.

One word.

“Yet.”

We were talking about paying for drinks in a light hearted way and keep in mind we were bantering back and forth alot too. She actually said that she thought I was good conversation at the beginning because I had thrown my smart ass remarks at her rather quickly.

So she says something about me buying her drink and I say, “I cant pay for your drink. We havent even kissed ‘yet’.” No cheesy pause before yet or anything but she picked it right up.

She laughed and said, “You said yet.”

Me: Yea but I cant promise you anything. 🙂  All you get is interesting conversation and good company. Besides, are you adventurous?

Her: Yeah blah blah blah.

We talked more.

The drinks were gone and she mentioned at least once in the conversation that she had to go put money in the meter for her car. I didn’t buy.

Me: Its so cool meeting you its too bad I cant hang out with you any more.

Her: Why?

Me: I gotta take Mr Poop Home. He cant be out in this too long.

Her: Well you can walk with me back to my car if you want on the way.

Me: Ok Maybe. But you gotta win this bet first.

ENTER: Five questions.

Of course she lost and with all seriousness (well feigned seriousness) I said, “Pleasure meeting you.”

of course we talked a little more and that was all. I walked away and we never saw each other again.

The End.

Yeah right.

So the bill comes and I say, “Well I suppose I could walk with you to your car if you bought my Bloody Mary for me.” 🙂

She did.

She didn’t even put up a fake fight.

So I start more intrusive kino on the walk putting my hand around her back then pulling it away ala R.J. (Give em something they like then pull it away just when you think they like it. Leave em wanting more.)

Now comes Spontaneity. I ask her on the way, “Are you Spontaneous?”

HB: Yea, blah blah blah.

and soon we’re at her car. I again remind her I gotta take Poop home but she had already said she wanted to have another drink somewhere so I said, “Why dont you ride with me and we can drop him off and come back?” She said OK.

She puts money in the meter and my brain says, “Kiss her NOW!”

My old self started saying, “Too early” but I knew What I had to do no matter how silly the timing seemed or how I didnt think we were there yet.

I did the Swingcat – Kissing School Routine.

I tried to kiss her and…

REJECTED!

however it was a good rejection.

HB: You cant kiss me. Im not that easy.
Me: What happened to all that spontaneity?
HB: Im not that spontaneous.
Me: So you have rules… Real spontaneous. What are your Rules? (David X)
HB: I dont have any rules.
Me: You didnt just kiss me that seems like a rule to me.
HB: I just met you Im not easy. Im not that spontaneous.

Keep in mind we’re walking to my car and Im not drilling her, this is all light hearted.

We drive to my house and on the way I run Sexual Predators by TD (since Sonics has been on about how good it is.) Wait NO. Thats the car ride back. I cant remember what we talked about on the way.

Anyways the key to my house is this. David DeAngelo learned a trick from Riker I believe. Bring the chick to your place, let her in to feel comfortable or even wonder whats gonna happen next and then LEAVE right away.

We did but on the way out I went for the kiss again, My state was on and she denied me again, this time saying, “Besides. You didn’t steal a kiss.”

So I did! Short makeout like five seconds then I pulled away and said, “Thats all you get.”

HB: Thats all YOU get!  🙂

FRAMEs are so wonderful especially when you know you just stole hers from her.

Sexual Predators… Walking back my game was ON and she was done. It was FTW at this point. I pulled a Sonics “Lets see if we fit.” during the walk back to the new bar. She had taken to grabbing my ass.

OK Rewind:

My doorway after the second rejection she started touching my ass.

I’m like: Seriously? You can grab my ass but I cant kiss you?

Thats when she said, “Yea but you didn’t Steal a kiss.” Instructing me exactly what she wanted me to do.

Fast Forward:

The bar – Sexual State – ppl were noticing. She started asking me from time to time, “Where did you come from?”

The bartender chick at one point tried to AMOG me when we were kissing with something about, “Do you have enough to go around?”

Me: What you wanna kiss?
BT: No I mean you got enough of her to go around? (Im sure she realised she just walked into something with someone she didnt want to walk into it with – she mustve heard the response I was thinking right at that moment because before I had a chance to answer she Switched gears) Besides there’s children in here.

Me: If I ran this country there I would teach these kids how to learn this stuff early. Wouldnt you want guys to be better a this stuff?
BT: Id vote for ya! Don’t you hate it when you try to kiss a guy and you have to teach him what to do? (to HB. I win again.) She went on like this for a couple mins and it just made me look even better.

Routine: Me: (My own) Im a big fan of the HighSchool make out. Its a lost art. You know how when you were in highschool you could just get together and make out all heavy for hours and you didn’t even care if it went anywhere. I love doing that, Im reviving it.

Shits on now.

We walk and Im barely talking now. I dont have to. Its all kino. PPL are looking at us, the spiky haired guy and the hot Burlesque chick (by the by – she is a Burlesque dancer and she is on Youtube.)

I remember that my Yoga Teacher had a Rock-Band going on at the Gym and I went to see. I social Proofed that place eyeing another target and standing there with this chick draped all over me and dancing on me like Im king Kool. The target I totally gave strong Eye contact opened me. “Arent you Poops Dad?”

We talked a merged set then after a minute my chick walked off to get a beer. Working my new target a little I blabbed about something and Just so happened to throw in, “So I was wandering around and I met her and…”

HBNaia: Wait! You mean the chick you’re all over? You just met her?
Me: Well shes kinda on me too, but yea. (my attitude was like, I don’t get it. Whats the big deal? Isnt that kinda thing normal?)

So we talked some more and I found out that she was gonna take the Naia Class at my Gym.

ME: You know I was actually gonna check out that class too.   Maybe I’ll see ya there.

Also at one point the older High Value (she just beams high value – some ppl just do) chick who manages the gym totally walks up to me and gives me huge props in front of my set and calls me cute and everything.

One more thing from the party. There was this girl from the gym; short, stocky-built, atheletic – cute as hell and even slightly muscular. I gamed her a little too.

When I said, Maybe Ill see you at the gym, she said, “Sure Im usually there working out with a guy named Bora.” as if to say, “I can see your game buddy and Ill be with another guy.”

Me: Really? You know Borat?!
Her: Bora
Me: Thats awesome, tell him I liked his movie.
Her: Its Bora
Me: Seriously. Borat works out here?

She started laughing and smiling and showed me a picture of the guy. With his name under it.

I ignored it and kept rambling about Borat and how I didnt think Borat looked like he worked out.

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So I said after a lull in the action, “Let’s walk.” and started walking. (HBSproket again) and the Yoga chick who has eyes for me sees me leave in the middle of her song and I flash her the peace sign.

We walk a block and I direct HBSproket around the block back the way we came and into an alley. We find one of those enclosed Doorways and I direct her in there and we make out and are pushing each other against the wall and switching dominant roles and getting each other generally Horny.

This goes on for a few and again shes asking me, “Where did you come from?”

We walk some more and happen upon the next enclosed doorway and SHE pushes me in there and more make out and mock Shtooping.

Back to the party for a bit then back to my house.

We walk back to our cars so she can follow me to my house to “watch Borat” since we joked about it and then I asked her if she ever saw the movie.

We drove to my house and she wanted me to play a CD she had so I did. She starts Stripper lap dancing me and she can fucking MOVE. I literally felt like I was getting a lap dance in a strio club in my own home.

Thre was definately more Push and Pull going on – For instance – Earlier before we decided to go back to my house She said, “Lets not plan anything, lets just go with the flow.”

I read somewhere – maybe even here recently someones idea on how to counter that so I stole it – if you read this and its you give yourself credit below and thanks.

I said, “It’s ok. We dont have to have sex.”

It somehow blew here state a little and she made this sad face but then the deal was sealed and she was back at my house.

Anyways later on we stopped the makeout and lap dancing for a while and I decided that instead of going in for the *close right away I would put it off. So we went into the computer room and played with Myspace.

Then after a bit she was pulling me back onto her and soon I just sorta took my penis out and we went from there.

She started rubbing it and then says, “If only you had some lubrication I could stroke it better.”

Gee look! I just happen to have some left!  🙂

So it went on and on from there.

Plus afterwords I gave her a spanking, like Seriously. She wanted me to call her bad girl and all that. God that was fun.

Im trying to discover the LMR but I have said in the past I just dont really ever get that much LMR when I close a chick. I have a natureal tendancy to be good at push so now that Ive added the pull and am getting better all the time its pretty much constant until the close. Up until the point I closed her there was always that, “We dont have to do this tonight – or Thats all youre getting” mentality.

After the interaction was in its closing phase she commented, “I knew you would be like this! I’m glad I met you.”

I asked (being ever on the quest for knowledge) “When did you know?”

She said, “As soon as I saw you I knew.”

I was like, “Yea but when I first talked to you you didn’t say much.”

She replied, “Yea but you kept talking.”

“So what would have happened had I not talked to you or stopped talking after you kinda brushed me off?” I asked her?

She said, “I would have kept walking.”

I said, “Really just like that? You wouldn’t have even tried talking to me?”

“Nope,” she answered me simply, “You’re the man.”

What fun!

Questions? Comments? You still awake?