The Seduction of Rainbow Dash Part 3

Tsod:

This is where I continue the stylishly cool journal type conversational thread ala Bram Stoker’s Dracula about the Seduction of Rainbow Dash.  If you’re like, “WTF is this shit?” feel free to check out The Seduction of Rainbow Dash part 1 and part 2.  We Start with a reply from someone about what you would have read in those last two articles, from the Super Secret Message Board I am a member of.  For fun and for ease of reading I will make my replies in Italics.

« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2013, 06:08 PM »

That’s why, I believe to number close few chicks, when going out. Decreases needs of dealing with BS situations like that. Anyway good job Ronnie.

« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2013, 01:52 AM »

BS – – – ? The best and most fun stuff is playing this kind of game; especially when…

Well. Especially when we end up back at my place in my bed completely naked doing naughty shit to each other

But ya, man. That texting was fun. So was dealing with her other shit. She’s 21. If a guy thinks a quality 21 year old chick is not going to give them shit to have to bypass then that guy probably hasn’t slept with many.

In the long run, she has/had fabulous titties, ass, legs, yummy vagina and more. So to me a little text battle is WELL worth the payout. Dude… She’s SOOOOOoooo Sexy.

So EVERYONE have hope- This 39 year old dude, Not like Hot and Sexy and In Amazing Shape, but probably an Average in appearance 39 year old dude, just got with a 21 year old who said guys CONSTANTLY hit on her.

I’m twice her age. FYI. I don’t ever want to hear ANY excuses from anyone why you can’t hook up with this chick or that.

« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2013, 10:58 AM »

One quick cliff note anyone can use TONIGHT.

LMR/Buyer’s Remorse destroyer (Credit Sonics) – You say to the girl when you are starting to get hot and heavy, “No matter what we do tonight, promise me it wont be the last time we see each other.”

Use your own words. There isn’t a magic phrase. I might have even said, “…promise me it wont be the last time we chill..” or “promise me we’ll hang out again after this.” Whatever makes sense when you say it. Of course, Don’t say it if you don’t wanna see the chick again, because it works!

LMR is GONE. And if you want to see the chick again you Win. For a LOT of chicks you can turn them into repeat customers.

Text from this morning (If you like the chick (wanna see her again) and you get sex action going on you should DEFINITELY send her a follow up text or call the next day, as well.)

Me: Had fun last night, brat. Have a good day

Her: Thanks Cutie 🙂 You too

Something about having a sexy 21 year old chick calling me cutie that floats my ego a little…

« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2013, 12:23 PM »

Well, txting as such is definitely fun, if you got time… Something, I’m lacking recently This is definitely a true PUA skill, not to downgrade you, but 39 hooking up with 21 year old, is like a typical L.A story, where young chicks hook up with older guys with money. You did it simply using skills, so kudos ( I assume you’re not a millionaire )

« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2013, 02:14 PM »

Quote from: Ronnie L-Train on January 25, 2013, 01:52 AM
If a guy thinks a quality 21 year old chick is not going to give them shit to have to bypass then that guy probably hasn’t slept with many.

Great point. I’m in LA right now, where there’s an incredible amount of hotties. I’ve also never seen so much shit from chicks. It’s ridiculous. I mean if you pass a chick on the street and just say a friendly social “hi”, they will NEVER respond.

Anyways, great re-frame in the texts. Especially when she started turning around – you didn’t bite initially and went with “however”. But also at that point you didn’t push her away too much. I’m definitely going to learn from that.

Here’s my question: how long was your response time to her texts? Often when I’m texting I’ll feel that what I initially want to respond with isn’t good, so I have to take time thinking up something better…

« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2013, 02:59 PM »

Well, L.A is a different lifestyle. Priorities for people over there’s nice car, clothing or hair. In Chicago for instance, people rather spend money on the nice house, than a brand new luxury car. Over there’s Hollywood, Beverly Hills, so go figure. Night Game, however, (and keep in mind, I only did one night of gaming there) is quite easy. Girls were really responsive, I’d say even more than in Chicago.  I couldn’t close for logistical reasons (I had a job training at Long Beach, and hotel was booked there, so quite a distance), but I believe it was doable.

« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2013, 03:51 PM »

Quote from: ********** on January 25, 2013, 12:23 PM
Well, txting as such is definitely fun, if you got time… Something, I’m lacking recently This is definitely a true PUA skill, not to downgrade you, but 39 hooking up with 21 year old, is like a typical L.A story, where young chicks hook up with older guys with money. You did it simply using skills, so kudos ( I assume you’re not a millionaire )

Yes, just skills. And this was no easy feat. When I started Kino last night she called me on it. “Why are you touching me every chance you get!?”

Lots of frame control. And then we got into a conversation about how she though I was so much older than her and she thought it was weird for me to be touching her. All it took was for me to get her talking about other guys she has hooked up with. She admitted that she dated a guy for a while (but never slept with him, it sounded like) who was 35. So once I got that out of her I was like “blah” and where I used to dive in, back in the day, and try and focus on and fix the resistance, I just danced around it and went right back into talking about sexual stuff.

At first she was shy, we were in a restaurant with almost no one there and her social programming was like, “I’m not sure I feel comfortable talking about this in public.”

And I gestured to the empty tables and referred to the nice Ethiopian lady and said, “You mean all these people listening in on our conversation, and our waitress who barely speaks English?”

So more and more we started talking about sexual stuff. It’s hot, because these younger girls seem so much more experienced a lot of times than women who are my age. Maybe it’s porn but they always do something sexually that surprises me, that I’m like “where did this girl fucking learn this stuff?”

Anyway, no… No money. And I don’t think it’s the classic LA story with these Chicago girls at all. I could easily think back to times where I would have failed miserably at a chick like this. Frame control, reframing, dealing with shit-tests, being quick on my feet and lots of leading. I’ve closed lots of chicks up till now, and I can tell you this could easily have been fucked up at so many points during this interaction it’s not even funny. This is one of the ones worth writing about because it was so difficult.

L.A. Story – one of my favorite movies back in the day…

Quote from: ******on January 25, 2013, 02:14 PM
Quote from: Ronnie L-Train on January 25, 2013, 01:52 AM
If a guy thinks a quality 21 year old chick is not going to give them shit to have to bypass then that guy probably hasn’t slept with many.

Great point. I’m in LA right now, where there’s an incredible amount of hotties. I’ve also never seen so much shit from chicks. It’s ridiculous. I mean if you pass a chick on the street and just say a friendly social “hi”, they will NEVER respond.

Anyways, great re-frame in the texts. Especially when she started turning around – you didn’t bite initially and went with “however”. But also at that point you didn’t push her away too much. I’m definitely going to learn from that.

Here’s my question: how long was your response time to her texts? Often when I’m texting I’ll feel that what I initially want to respond with isn’t good, so I have to take time thinking up something better…

At first with the girls I make them wait. Even this chick, we did some texting before the text example above, but in that case it was more pinging, fun texts and just me keeping myself on her radar. In that case if they are responding I will wait a LONG TIME to actually respond. I don’t want to make text a conversation, but I do want to use it to keep me in her mind.

Look at it this way, if you say something fun, and she responds, then she is waiting for you to respond. Now chicks are WAY better at this than we are IMO – you will never see chicks (cute, sexy ones anyway) doing dumb shit like texting, then texting you again to double check their text;

IE:

“What are you doing tonight?”

“Oh, well I hope you’re not too busy because it would be nice to see you.”

Or some shit guys might do. But still, the whole time we make them wait you are at LEAST in the back of her mind. That means on some level, she is thinking about you.

But then sometimes I’ll reply once or twice pretty quick. I like to keep in mind Raccoon Theory. Always keep them guessing. If you ALWAYS do the same thing she will expect it. So Change it up. Actually the more she seems invested in a response from you the LONGER I would make her wait for that answer. Always try to end the text on a high note so when she’s thinking about you it’s a good thing, expectation, not a bad thing.

In the case of her flaking texts, I responded not like too fast but at the same time just matched her response time. Look, if she wasn’t interested AT ALL she would have never even texted me in the first place. There was a part of her that wanted to hang out on some level, maybe even on some deep level. That doesn’t mean she would have, if my text game wasn’t on point she just simply would have backwards rationalized, “Yep, that guy sucked. I’m glad I didn’t go out with him.”

The text convo from above was her LAST CHANCE to me and there was a time I for sure would have blown it, and I am of the belief that MANY, MANY guys would blow it as well.

I mean, I’m pretty sure in many places it’s STILL community Dogma that, “If a chick tried to flake on me I NEXT HER! My time is very valuable as the Alpha Male and I don’t have time for Flaky Chicks.”

However the women I’ve talked to, including LESBIANS, have informed me that Flakiness is actually to be expected. It’s NORMAL. So guys who are saying, “I don’t have time for these flaky women,” are probably either not getting any ass OR if they are they are only used to getting (to coin a cool Chicago Lair phrase )the Low Hanging Fruit. The whole Alpha Male shit about Nexting a Flaky Bitch comes from Inexperience and Overcompensating the lack there of, with trying to make oneself feel like an Alpha Male; when in reality it’s just protecting one’s fragile ego and feelings.

You can’t Next a girl you never fucked. ~Tyler Durden

So when it came to the text convo above she was responding rather quick and so I could as well. But the SLOW texting that I was doing before probably made this MORE possible being that I wasn’t coming across as the “needy, clingy guy who always texts alot”.

Make Sense?

« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2013, 04:45 PM »

Ronnie, did you go dutch at the restaurant or did you pay?
Also did you pick her up (via car)?

Just curious.

« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2013, 05:13 PM »

I paid. I wanted to go eat out. That was the plan.

To help you understand my philosophy on this, I have heard many different beliefs and it comes down to what David X once said:

It’s not about whether or not you buy her drinks or dinner or whatever, it’s HOW you do it and WHY you do it.

I didn’t buy dinner to impress her, I bought her dinner because I wanted to go out to eat… So I picked a cheap Ethiopian BYOB very close to my place…

David X Quotes, “I don’t give a shit what she does with her dinner. As far as I’m concerned I bought it for her. She can eat it, or pick at it or throw it on the floor. What the fuck do I care? I bought it for her, I don’t give a shit what she does with it at that point.” When talking about a date he was on where the chick was picking at her salad instead of eating it, and commented about it.

To me, if I want to take a chick to go eat, that’s the choice I made. I think a guy who AVOIDS going to dinner because he feels it’s supplication is NO BETTER off than the guy that supplicates to the chick and pays for her shit expecting something in return. (Wrap your mind around that one… )

Oh and I ALWAYS drive if I can. But if you don’t have a car most definitely plan your date close to home OR Cab > Train/Bus.

Next:  The Finale….. Stay Tuned!~

Sidecar:

Of COURSE this post reminded me of a cool ass movie I used to watch when I would substitute being lonely with Romantic Comedies …

If you haven’t seen it, though, watch this movie anyway.  L.A. Story is the Shit!

I’ll actually probably watch it tonight for fun.

My favorite line from the Movie:

Sara:  It’s nothing that some sleep and a good fuck wouldn’t cure, as my sister used to say.  (You have to see the scene to really appreciate this line.)

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The Seduction of Rainbow Dash Part 1

Tsod:

One of my favorite books EVER is Bram Stoker’s Dracula.  The obvious reason might be that it’s because the story is about Vampires and Dracula and all that blah blah, but the truth is, that’s only part of it.  The thing that made the book so fascinating to me to read was the way it was written.  If you’ve never read it I highly recommend it.  Watching the movie doesn’t count.

It is written as a compilation of newspaper articles, journal entries, letters, public notices, doctors reports etc, that actually tell the story within them.

When you’re done reading my awesomeness, feel free to jump over and read it, and drop me a line if you do.  It was one of my favorite books back in the day.

Bram Stoker’s Dracula – Click to start reading this fabulous classic for free online!

The reason I bring this up, is because my story of HB Rainbow Dash sort of turned out like this on a Super Secret Forum I belong to.  Discussions sort of just happened and most of the chapters of the short story of real life experiences were drawn out in a sort of conversational fashion.  So the next few installments in my blog will be quite…  Interactive, if you will.  I feel like breaking it up into parts over the next few days is essential to not overload any of my readers.  If you want to catch up with the story you can always check out my last blog post – Setting up the Date:  Texting Made Complicated 😉

So here we go.  Enjoi! (Of COURSE I am not sharing the names of those involved to protect the guilty motherfuckers like myself. 😉 )

« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2013, 06:45 PM »

Ronnie this is awesome! I didn’t even know which parts to quote. but fuckin genius jedi shiieet ! haha!

« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2013, 08:29 PM »

My favorite and best moment to learn from is HOWEVER
Why you ask. She finally falls for Ronnie L-Pimp text game here. She finally says “OK”, yet he doesn’t hook into that, He stays strong and continues his fun and self amusing storytelling and then what makes it even better is that she follows along. She follows along with his story, hopefully she follows to his Ronnie L-poon…
Nice write up.
I bet she still flakes, not because of you, but cuz she is young naive girl… I bet a Beer of quality.

« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2013, 12:42 AM »

She did NOT Flake. But tonight would have been a waste to extract her to my place because of her lack of trust. So I made it a short date and drove her to like 2 different places, including dropping her off near her place at the end of the night. Meanwhile I started gaining her trust and introducing some light sexual escalation. Then the Timebridge. We will be going out Thursday night again.

This time I will have gained her trust. I got her in my car and drove her around and didn’t ass rape her or even try. I was as perfect of a gentleman, aside from talking about fucking and giving her orgasms, which she apparently has not had in 4 years, as possible. Day3.. At a BYOB (It’s her 21st birthday!) Done deal.

Oh and you owe me a GOOD beer..

« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2013, 03:40 AM » – (This is where I start to break down the seemingly innocence of my texts and the methods to my madness.  These are just my replies to her texts.  To get the whole rundown click this.)

Me:  HAHAHA ! That’s Hilarious! This is a GREAT story to tell my friends 🙂 Drug Dealer . . LOL It’s so ridiculous I can’t even be offended you just said that –

Subcommunication is the key. I always think there are two ways to react to something like this. I always like to use a Wall as an example. A woman puts a wall up. We can try to crash through the wall, which will only create resistance and since the wall isn’t going anywhere; OR we can try and defend against the wall or back away from it, which will mean the wall stopped us.

I choose the third way… The third way is to take a step back, observe the wall and don’t try to crash it and don’t run away, but to simple side step and go around the wall.

So instead of replying to her text:

I don’t think I’ll be meeting you tonight… I’m sorry if you changed your plans around for it but I think this whole situation is just kind of weird. The couple of people I told you about think you are probably a drug dealer.

I don’t directly reply to it at all. I don’t try to convince her to be there, and I don’t say, “Well too bad, bitch, your loss!” I don’t try to convince her I’m NOT a drug dealer and I don’t try to say, “Ya. How did you guess. I am a drug dealer.” which might have been a funny, yet coy remark; cocky/funny, that I would have USED to say… However it probably wouldn’t have been that effective. Instead I just Laugh, then I tell her it’s so funny I would actually want to share it with my friends and all that. Which is true…

Wait. How am I supposed to tell you about myself? We met for like 5 minutes . . You want me to text you my life story?

Implying that I did not tell her about myself through text and reveal specifics about myself, NOT because I was using text as a logistic tool, but because … Well, I was using text as a logistics tool Meaning, the more you Converse with the chick through text without a destination in mind the more you chance LOSING HER. Text is not conversation. Text is logistics and setting up the date. It took me SOOOOOOOO LONG to finally get this. Also a quick tip is, if you talk to the girl for 20 minutes always say it was 5 minutes. Shorten the time. There’s some sort of socially savvy reason to do this to sound cool. Not necessary but like adding salt and pepper to a steak.

And fyi. I work Day AND Night w my clients . Not just Nights. And I don’t recall you even asking me What I do? you’re so cute and funny all at once

This is almost like qualifying, but it’s a little more like correction. Being an authority in her world as Ross Jeffries would put it. I think explaining and qualifying vs correcting a chick is a very fine line. The reason this is NOT qualifying IMO is because I am not directly answering her question which is:

Why else do you have clients at night, know tons of women, and won’t tell me anything about yourself. . . 

Qualifying is more like, “Well I work at night because I am a ……” Or “Ok fine, I’ll tell you what I do. I…….” Some shit like that. My answer is more like dancing around her wall with finesse. PLUS I add a little push pull at the end.

How am I twice your age? Lol . . We never even talked about age. Actually I’m 4 times your age. 79 I just look Really Young for my age . . 🙂

Ross Jeffries always taught that to make something extreme in a ridiculous manner takes away from it’s power. Swingcat also taught a routine where you say something similar. As you may recall I just got tripped up recently due to my age difference with a chick. Not this time. (~this story was posted in the Super Secret Forum and not on here, but perhaps could be by request)

Her: Haha. Because you look way older than me. What is it you want from me anyway. 😉

Me: Hahaha. This is AWESOME! You have this whole Fantasy built about me from meeting me for 5 minutes and 5 texts 🙂 You TOTALLY watch too many movies

Avoiding her answers as much as possible, but just for the moment. I am leading, not her. She may ask a question but I will make statements and lead, answering her when I feel it makes sense to me, and not necessarily to her. She’s smiling = “I WANT you to convince me to go out with you. Make me feel comfortable, you’re getting there.” Main key to this message is simply a NEG.

Her: No I don’t! People get abducted and raped, and how am I to know you’re not a creeper

Me: I’ll tell answer your question in a second but let me get this straight. So I’m a Fifty year old Drug Dealer who lives a secret night-life surrounded by women and my seedy underworld clientele. And you scientifically came to that conclusion how exactly ? 

More leading, neg, OPEN LOOP and in this case I SPELL OUT what she just told me, so she can actually see how ridiculous it looks when she is the recipient. Also, NOTICE how I only bite the useful threads. I do not bite things like “Creeper, Rape, Abduction”. I TOTALLY ignore those threads. They don’t even exist in my reality.

Guess who the guy is who pays attention to those threads, either by denying them or somehow justifying them, even in a c&f kind of way. That’s right, he’s ONE OF THEM.

Her: Hahaha  That’s basically what my friends have chalked you up to, yes. But 40, not 50. So you think there is absolutely nothing sketchy about an older man approaching a young woman as a complete stranger, and asking for her number and to go out to clubs? 

Me: Hahaha! Could it be that I’m just a cool, social guy? Might it be that simple? I mean sure, that sounds a LOT crazier than Underworld Drug Boss. BUT might I just be a normal, cool, attractive guy with a lot of friends who just lives a fun life?  

Pointing out – HEY this is how normal people think. You’ll notice in the next couple texts the use of the words NORMAL and RATIONAL and things like that. That is most definitely NOT by accident. I am introducing to her that this, and many of the things I do, regardless of how abnormal they might have seemed to her, are, in fact – NORMAL…

Continued in the next chapter.  Remember kids, if you have question about specifics or you read something that doesn’t make sense to you, ask away!

Sidecar:

Soooo…  Technorati says to me, we need to find a Token so we can see that this is really your site and that token needs to be in the body of one of my posts.  So here goes.  This is not really important for anyone reading this but I figure since my blog is the way it is, I would leave it as a permanent addition to one of my posts.  Y4KVX4PJC3YG