LR: HB Creole Legs

Ok, I’m a little tired today so let’s see if I can do this.  I’m going to try and cut out a lot of the meat and get to my points.

1.  I opened direct, but not what people consider direct, which is really not direct but a canned line, “Hey, I thought you were cute and I just wanted to meet you.”  I did more like what David X would say to do and whatever you like about her, you tell her, and that means EXACTLY what you think, not padded or soft. INTENT from the get go.

2.  Combined element of and INTENTION (different from intent) and Synchrodestiny.  This was a little different than how I would usually play the game but it worked fabulously.  I have been meaning and meaning and meaning to write a post on this but it hasn’t happened yet.  I will soon.  Basically the idea is stuff that people like Deepak Chopra, and Wayne Dyer teach.  That is, also, what I have been teaching people like Boom! and Jawsome (students) a little.  It kind of just came out in my most recent bootcamps, but it has seemed to be really powerful.  That is, you got up today with the INTENTION of talking to women.  So every woman you see is actually there for you to talk to.  It is LIFE giving you a GIFT.  It is NOT accidental that you decided to go meet women, and that you see a woman you like, and that your mind is telling you to talk to her.  It is ALL the NATURAL ORDER OF THINGS.  If you don’t approach you are slapping life in the face.  That’s a VERY basic run down, I will get into details later when I write the thread.

So, I was walking around near my place in a nice little neighborhood that I like to frequent, and I noticed walked into a second hand clothing store because, well 90% of those shops are women’s clothing and women love second hand clothing.  I saw this 2 set of black girls near the checkout, one was sitting on a bench and the other was talking to her.  The one sitting – I saw her legs and I was fucking immediately horny.  YUMMY!  She was also, IMO fucking way attractive, despite the fact that she wasn’t even dressed up.  She was wearing shorts and a sweat top.  I wanted to approach, but my brain reflected on something Johnny Walker once talked with me about.

We were in a diner in Lakeview and I saw a 2 set there in a booth who I told Johnny I was going to approach.  He said something to the effect that it was the wrong place and the wrong time.  It was an awkward situation, and that the girls would most likely not be receptive.  Then he made the point clear, which was, “Guys are always trying to open the difficult sets. Then they get rejected.  Then they keep doing it and keep getting rejected and they start to create a pattern of failure in their minds instead of thinking that it has to do with just repeating the same mistake over and over.”  This is far different from, “Advanced openeing blah blah” or whatever.  This is more to the point of, pick your battles wisely.

To me, that was a great lesson but I added something to it this time.  Intention and synchrodestiny.  In my mind I knew that 2 girls, In a store, NEAR the girls working the checkout.  That would be a LOT of pressure.  So, I thought to myself, “I am going to go back to my car and get my phone, which I forgot anyway.  Assuming that I am out and I am SUPPOSED to meet her, that she is actually there because of my intention, then when I come back I will meet her.”

And that’s what I did.  And when I was walking back, who did I happen to pass on the sidewalk?  The  two black girls.  And I opened immediately with, “I had to tell you your legs are fucking amazing!”

She got a big smile on her face immediately.  We started chatting.  Her friend only gave me a little shit but warmed up to me immediately after some light banter.

I made my intentions known, that I wanted to take this girl out.  But there was a lot of banter immediately with these two girls.  I was talking about how I was going to go work out, HBCreole Legs was talking about how she hadn’t worked out in 3 weeks but that she wanted to get on team skinny.  I told her how I could work out like a horse and no matter if I lost every ounce of fat on my body I’d probably be a big, stocky guy.

And she shot back, “uhhh…  You’re not that big.  I mean, maybe in your mind you are but ummmm…”  She was negging me so to speak.

I told her I could take her, called her short (she was pretty much 1 inch shorter than me) and then her friend got involved and had us stand back to back to see who was taller.  So banter was established pretty early.

Then we walked after a few minutes, and her friend actually went to where she worked apparently and left us.  I said, “let’s go grab some tea.”  She was like, “fuck it.  Ok.”

So we went.  On with the banter and a tiny bit of kino but not like clubby like since it was daygame and we only knew each other for 10 minutes.  Very soon the banter was going how I like it, racist… Wink  Not really, but I have dated a few black girls, one for over a year.  Plus some of my best wings and friends in my life were black guys.  What you learn is, when you have a good heart and the other person knows it, the “racist” banter goes back and forth.  She was talking about white people this and that.  I think the first thing was something about these cops we saw and how she made a joke about how we had to run or something.  I said, “No, you’re with me.  I’m white.  You’re safe.”

She was making silly jokes about shit, I would come back.  I can’t remember them all but the 2 that stand out were when we could cross the street, I would say, “it’s safe to cross.  The WHITE guy just popped up.”  And in the tea shop I told her she should order a “Hot Chocolate” and elbowed her knowingly.  She said, “oh is that how it is?”

The girl behind the counter had a big smile on her face and asked us if we were comedians?  I said something about how, “You know when you’re little and your parents teach you, “think before you speak”?  Well I thought that was TERRIBLE advice so I just really don’t think at all, and the words just come out.

Anyway so on and on we went, walking around the town, going into a store here or there.  Banter kept going, but so did vibe and very soon sexual topics and kino started escalating.  Soon we were walking around broad daylight and she was telling me how she masturbated before she left the house that day, how she liked dildos, I grabbed her legs, was being aggressive.  Lots of push pull kino (fractionization) and soon I had my arm around her waste pulling her to me.  I could have kissed her but didn’t.

I was headed to the gym and had no intention of pulling.  But I did want to see her again.  This girl was HOT to me.

So, that being said, I eventually stopped the interaction, and tried a timebridge, to which she said she was busy.  But she texed my phone which was in my car.

So I pinged her a couple times over the weekend, just fun texts.  She would take along time to respond but whatever.  Yesterday I asked her to hang out.  We did.

I took her for one drink, J-Dub happened to be at the day 2 bounce location and he was cool.  We sat next to him and he talked to her a bit, and then eventually he left.  I let her finish her beer, but I seeded early the possibility of going to my place to “watch a movie”.

She said, “I know what “watch a movie” means and it never means watching a movie.”  I said for me it did.

But then I said, “well I could say come see my talking goldfish.”

By the way, escalation was pretty easy, like I said.  The stage was set already so it was just kinda natural at this point.  However that also means I was actively doing it.  I did do constant kino and “let’s see if you fit” just because it kinda seems trademark at this point.  But straight to my place, straight to my bedroom, and straight to watching 300 part II.

And I was kissing her all over, and eventually…  I mean HOLY MOTHER OF GOD this girl was fucking BEAUTIFUL naked. She was trying not to let me make her cum but too bad for her.  I won…  She was like, “fuck!  I just came.  What just happened?”  It was cute.

I’m really tired today so I’m writing this, but if anyone has specific questions feel free to ask.

RL

Emdashwood, Sexuality, and the Difference Between Potential Relationship Guy and Fun in the Sack Guy

If I make a reply this long…  It needs to really be a whole new post..  So here we go, emdashwood.

If you are not emdashwood, but want to know what the hell all this is about, this discussion started back in my post, My Humiliating Dream, in the comments section.  Here is the last thing emdashwood wrote (followed by my reply, of course).

  • They definitely don’t have to be related. I do think, however, if they’re someone you’re interested in as relationship material, then the sexual attraction is there. Really that’s the first step… If that buzzer doesn’t go off, then you never even make it out of the friend zone or into a flirtation stage. Women can be hesitant to be too aggressive or animalistic (as you put it) right off the bat, though… we’ve been trained over the years that *good* men might judge us poorly if we’re too overt. So, if you’re still in the “potential relationship material” category, you may not see that “animalistic” side for a while. On the other hand, if you’re in the “definitely not relationship material” category, then you move directly into the “would we have fun in the sack” category, at which point all bets are off and our inner porn star comes alive ;-)

    Also, I know it’s a concern for me personally, that by opening up that more overtly sexual side of myself, I’m possibly stunting the development of an emotional connection… For example, a guy I’ve been seeing recently… We crossed that line fairly early… oral on a first date, the whole shabang on the second date. We’re soooo compatible in this area that neither one of us wants to spend much time outside the bedroom… We see each other roughly once a week (his availability is limited as he has kids) and 90% of our time together is spent between the sheets. I mean… after a week’s worth of anticipation, there’s really no holding back when we see each other. But I actually like this guy as relationship material, and I worry sometimes that because I gave into those desires so quickly, other areas of our relationship have suffered due to lack of attention!

    As for the housewives… I would say it could be either case… Personally, I spent 8 years in a marriage where I was very overt (it’s in my DNA, I can’t help myself!)… but my ex was disinterested, at best, and certainly didn’t give me the pleasure I was desperately in need of. I never ventured outside the marriage, though… just became very adept at pleasing myself. On the other hand, I know there are women who never break through that fear of “*good* men might judge us poorly” and as a result probably have desires that are never expressed and end up going unfulfilled with their partner.

(To which I reply…)

I totally see that, too. I want both, though. I don’t think, just because we wanna date someone we should limit ourselves sexually with that person. I honestly feel we should express that side of ourselves more.

It’s unfortunate that society has somehow convinced us that there should be a separation between your sexual side and that emotional connection side of things.

The thing about the dream, I can tap into that sexual side in women very quickly. That’s probably what pissed me off about the dream, is that there was the implication that I wasn’t and couldn’t do it and these average guys could. But not in a envy or jealously sense, it just made me evaluate my OWN skills a little.

But back to what you were saying, I kinda feel it’s really unfortunate that people seem to make that separation between sexuality and connection. To me, sexuality IS connection and just because a girl likes me, does not mean she should automatically disconnect herself from wanting to get sexual with me quickly.

My last real girlfriend was a Doctor of Veterinary medicine. She was a intelligent, well spoken, super attractive, clean language, down to earth woman and that’s what I liked about her. She was reading a book when I met her. I believe it was angels and demons.

But we went out on our first date and we got fucking hot and steamy and made out right out in the open, pda style and went back to my house all hot and fucking horny and the ONLY reason we didn’t go all the way from point A to point F the first date was because she was in the Red Zone.

That being said, we didn’t separate that part of ourselves from the first moment and that allowed things to bloom nicely and I don’t think that embracing that sexual side got in the way at all of us still having that cool relationship.

And then there’s the last girl I went on a couple dates with, who couldn’t combine the two. She liked me, I was sure of that, but was trying to cut me off from expressing myself sexually. She had some idea in her mind that because she genuinely liked me that it was time to put things on the slow track and be strange. She was sexually attracted to me, for sure. We had 2 good dates, but if I invited her in for a drink or whatever on those dates, she balked. But she was cool with making out in the driveway right outside my door.

But then after the second date I invited her out to come meet me and a friend. She came out of her way, across town, to come see me. I was excited to see her and naturally, when she got there decided to show my natural affection to her and I tried to kiss her. That was me being me, not contrived, not trying to get something from her. I figured we had already been there, we had already made out a few times, and so I figured a quick kiss was in order. Not like a full on make out session in the middle of the bar or anything (not that I’m against that), but I definitely wanted to reward her for coming out to see me, and to me, a kiss was the way to do that.

But she gave me the fucking cheek turn. I was like, “What was that?” I didn’t make a big deal out of it, but it kind of killed the vibe immediately. Her concern was something about what if she saw people she knew or something.

We ended up getting in a big discussion about it later walking her to her car and it ended up killing my attraction to her. I couldn’t tell if it was her not liking me; her not desiring me sexually but liking me; or her being afraid to embrace that sexual side of herself because she liked me too much as a person. Honestly, after 2 dates, that was just too much in the wrong direction and so I ended up texting her later something like, “I’m an amazing guy, a catch, and if you can’t see that after 2 dates I don’t know that I want to try and convince you. But I do have a crush on you…”

She didn’t text me back and I never tried calling or texting her again. But here’s the funny thing. 2 weeks later she did text me back, being flirty and fun and provocative in her texts to me. We had a big conversation and she hinted that she wanted to see me again..

But then check this out, when I bit the hint and made the offer she rejected it. At first I thought she was just playing around. Why on earth would a chick reach out to me, be flirty and fun and bait me into asking her out just to reject me? Who does that?

Maybe a low self esteem woman who needed to end the interaction on HER terms where she felt like she was the one doing the final rejection since, my text about “convincing” from earlier was a form of me rejecting her if she was gonna continue to be a stick in the mud.

Or my other theory was that she was still attracted to me but at the same time that part of her that was afraid of getting sexual with me was holding her back.

Either way, the text conversation ended up going south when I kept being playful, tried asking her out again a second time (just because I had a hard time believing she was actually serious about the first rejection) and she again said no.

I ended up, pretty much calling her on it telling her pretty much the same thing I just said above. She was either a girl VERY MUCH into games, or there was a part of her that liked me, made her reach out since I was not giving her attention, but yet, was too afraid to embrace that sexual side with me for whatever reason.

Basically, the point is, my BEST relationships got sexual very quckly.  But there is a drawback to that, and that is, some women will get sexual with me very quickly and then that is that.  We end up having sex and then I may never see them again, even if I want to.  (Yes there are the women I have sex with quickly and then get bored with them or whatever but that’s not what this thread is about).  But I can’t be someone I am not.  I cannot change my nature for a woman, just to be in a relationship with her, and if I did I don’t think it would be a very satisfying relationship on either side if I did.

So to me, the perfect mix of sex and seduction and connection and fun are the recipe to the perfect relationship.  If one of those parts are missing, then the rest, in my opinion, falls apart.   It’s just too bad, like I said before, that society or whatever has screwed people up into thinking that a woman should withhold expressing her sexuality to someone she likes, because that person might not take her seriously.  And that doesn’t mean that she needs to just throw her sexuality around carelessly with whoever, I mean, unless she wants to, but at the same time to withhold that spiritual essence that sexuality really is, in my opinion from someone you really, genuinely like is unfortunate in and of itself.  There needs to be a balance…