Lay Report: Blissfully Key Westy – Or I could name it Key West Fuck Parade to sound cool…

Tsod:

I’m posting these reports for the benefit of my students and other guys who I have directed here so they can learn pickup from Real Life experiences instead of endless theory.  Also, if you read the Seduction Chronicles you will notice that was one of the main intentions of this blog, to actually recycle some of the writings I’ve done online for various Forums or whatever.

The Good News about these reports is, that if you’re looking to get laid, I think these will be a Fantastic Resource for you to step up your game. I tend to break things down VERY Specifically.  I write stream of consciousness and many times I will dissect very deeply into why I did things or why specific tactics or techniques worked; and, of course, the proper mindset at the time.  (However, as an aside, I do notice how much my mindset has changed WAY for the better from a few years ago to now.)

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This story took place in 2009 back when I was in Key West on a journey to find my life.

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November 24th, 2009, 7:56 pm

Well if you read my last LR you know that I almost immediately hooked up with a tourist. Now it’s going on a month and about 10 days. I stopped sarging actively for the MOST part – even up till now I haven’t really actively sarged. There were a few times but not so many. I was running low on cash and needed my own place ASAP. I was lucky enough to find a guy who decided he’d work something out with me so I could pay in chunks for the first month.

So I got a job and started working and still I am in the hole. So work is priority. Cool! But I get 1 day off a week and work ends at 10pm and starts at 2pm. So I can do a little before and after BUT still, I don’t quite get into the “Go to the bar and NOT drink.” vibe. If I go out, I drink! That’s the fucking point of being in a bar.

I love the taste of alcohol, beer and wine and I love buzzes. I despise hangovers but oh well. You gotta pay to play. My point is I’m not going out as much because I’m trying to SAVE. And yet, I am not in a hurry at all!

Here’s why.

After the tourist I had a nice little romp with a gal I met in the spinach/lettuice section of Winn-Dixie, which is a Grocery Store chain down here. I open and vibed and timebridged her but it was about 3 weeks ago so I can’t remember the specifics. I was busy looking for work and a place to stay so the FR moved to the back seat.

The only thing is that she has also seemingly moved to the slow track. She seems to work alot and she is HOT. I mean HOT. She is definately in the top 3 chicks I have had naked and sucked all over her body. I didn’t full close. I keep being Mr Nice guy when it comes to LMR and keep fooling myself into believeing that I will make her want it more if I don’t fuck her right away. Why? I’m trying to tweak the idea of making them want to see me again. Whatever, I’ll figure it out. This is a new thing for me. I was fucking chicks faster and now I’m trying to slow it down – there is some experiment my brain is running with all this – I know it, I’m just not exactly sure what that is right now. I’ll know soon enough. I think that it has something to do with David X saying that when he KNEW he could fuck a chick he would make her wait.

And I think that shit works WITH the right followup AFTER you let her go without fucking her. I think the experiment is, trying to figure out WHAT exactly (by trial and error) that followup is; WHICH is what I think I have discovered!! (read on)

But the key is I met her at Winn Dixie. The set was fun. I exchanged numbers and during our talking I discovered she liked unfiltered sake. Well fuck me too so do I and for real. So we set up the day2.

On that set I drank. I can remember using some routines from the likes of Ross Jeffries, In10se, El Topo and a few of my own. The day2 ended with me leaving empty handed and going home alone EXCEPT for the fact that She paid for ALL my sake. I spent 0 dollars.

Meanwhile that was day2. Then I timebridged her that night. We decided to go out again a few nights later and so we did. We met up at Grand Vin.

The interestesting thing about this was the fact that this day3 sucked ass at the beginning. I was a little stressed because of my current limbo living situation and I met up with her. Although I had my game face on it was a tough night. This was a girl who had guys hitting on her when I was with her. The first guy was random nice guy chode AFC. He was a local from the island and struk up a conversation with her while I went to get a beer and go to the bathroom. I come back and he’s doing all the “Where do you work?” blah blah to her then starts playing the name game.

Fine. I kept trying to gain control of the conversation but my brain was not the usual chatterhouse of topics for the evening SO this guy kept regaining her attention. Finally I literally stood up from where I was sitting while talking about leaving and body-blocked him out of set. He got the hint and then sat back where he was before but that happened to be on the opposite side of me with my girl between us. He starts back in with the “Familiar” talk and soon I’m fighting for attention again and getting frustrated.

And then I hear him talking to her… and he slips in the SOI. The sexually suggestive comment. Fucker! He’s trying to snake my chick, but that was already obvious. Now it was just out in the open. So now I grab my drink and tell my chick, “Drink up… I’m tired of sitting here. I wanna walk.. It’s nice out.”

She relents but the vibe starts to get weird. We’re walking around and she’s walking ahead of me. There is obvious uncomfortableness going down. If this happens I usually stop walking and start going in different directions or whatever. I am not following the chick around. No way. I ended up turing down random streets and going all over the place because she kept walking ahead and doing shit that was uncomfortable and creating a shitty vibe. Maybe I was too but I was not about to be AFC and both follow and reward her bad behavior.

We run into this other guy she knows and Immediately the guy tries to AMOG me. He says, “Nice necklace.” and pokes my necklace.

And my inner self wants to smash him in his face. BUT then of course that would mean I lost my cool and blow the set. So I don’t. I keep my cool and thank him. We start chatting. He was out selling key-west coconuts which grow all over the place locally. You cut the top off and drink the coconut milk.

They went through the cursory “hello”s and I was polite enough to listen and just talk but not blow my frame. This guy was trying to be the alpha of the situation but I was throwing shit back. He decided to make me a coconut juice and hand it to me and then tell me, “Be careful and don’t spill it all over yourself.”

I replied, “Ya good idea. I don’t want to get my clothes all dirty like yours.” said very politely as I gestured to his clothing which was indeed dirty.

So he’s talking and soon he’s into what sounds to me VERY much like a comfort story; a fucking grounding sequence. Now I don’t think he’s a pua but he’s telling this girl i’m with an identity story. He’s at it a couple minutes and I’m listening thinking, “No way is this fucking guy going to run comfort on my chick in front of me!” (The thing is, I was just watching Tim’s Natural Method the day before where he talks about Chode Hope. I was thinking – “No – I AM doing Chode Hope right now! This will NOT STAND!”)

So he’s getting to a part of his story where he’s telling my chick, “You see… When I was growing up in my country…”

“You know what!?” I say really loud but evenly relaxed talking over him. I don’t wait for him to pause, “This is a pretty smart idea; selling these coconuts. I mean, you got your truck here filled with em. I know they grow free all over the island so there’s no overhead. You can go into people’s yards at night or whatever and pick their coconuts for free. I just had a lady yesterday almost beg me to come get them from the trees in her yard as long as I cleaned up after myself. Must be a pretty decent business. I bet you could even stay in your truck if you needed a cheap place to stay.”

I was saying this like it was the coolest thing in the world. I was acting truely interested while peppering him with DLV tags pretty quickly… and he just stood there not knowing what to say. There may have been more to my story but the deal was that I was making him out to be pretty much a homeless guy who lived in his truck and snuck into people’s yards in the middle of the night to steal their coconuts and sell them on the street.

Then after that I saw a cute chick a few feet away I had spoken with a couple of times on the island and I ejected the set leaving him and my chick HBIvy (from now on) to themselves. Of course a moment later HBIvy was saying “bye” to the guy and coming over to see who I was talking to…

We talked for a couple minutes and then I ejected and we started walking some more. The weird vibe was still there. I thought to myself, “Fuck This! It’s go time. This is either going to go to shit OR it’s gonna happen and it’s happening now.

So I brought light upon the situation. I called it out. I told her I knew the weird vibe was there between us and I’m not used to it. I said, “I’m a pretty laid back guy. I like to have fun. We had fun last time but this shit is weird. Let’s just call it a night.”

She told me she was hungry and wasn’t gonna go out tonight and tired and all this blah blah and she was sorry she was acting like this. Then we kept walking around talking about it for a couple minutes but it really wasn’t moving anything forward so finally I was just like, “Come here…”

Right in the middle of her complaining and griping I just stopped her and said it. She stopped and I pulled her in and kissed her. At first she was like… WTF? She kinda paused for a brief instant like she didn’t know what was going on and then I heard her say, “uh.. ok.” and the she started kissing me back.

Done deal. The vibe was immediately gone. We both relaxed instantly and started having fun. I said, “Look, I got alot of pressure too. I’m fucking couch surfing in the middle of a house where all they do is watch Family Guy, My Name is Earl and that fucking space show the Simpson’s guy made. To tell you the truth I would just LOVE to chill and watch a movie or listen to some kickass music somewhere; to chill, relax and have a drink.

She said, “we could go to my house…”

=)

I seem to be getting good at this. Chicks here are always inviting themselves to do shit with me. LOL. Be Interesting.

So back to her house we went. We started drinking sake. Constant kino was on. IOM was on. She draped her legs over me and I put on Pandora with only 1 artist inputted into it to set the entire mood: Tricky. That’s all I needed.

Long story short we were all over each other. I had her pretty much completely naked and this chick is HOT. Her fucking body is amazing and her tits? Funny thing. This girl is the sweetest girl on earth. She’s totally polite and nice and friendly and has that southern belle thing going but she had these amazing Fake tits – FAKE. LOL. The last thing I would have thought this chick would have is fake titties but there they were in all their glory – beautiful fake boobs. Her body was toned and awesome.

I pretty much licked and but every part of it – but for some reason I got LMR. That’s fine. I had an amazing time making out with her and she did with me as well. No sex? Not yet. It’s going to happen. Trust. Many say that if you miss the opportunity and don’t break through LMR it’s not going to happen. Bullshit.

I have proven to myself several times that indeed it WILL happen. I just did it again. The key is that guys get too focused on closing the girl once they hit LMR and then they try to finish the job. The girl knows this and then ASD kicks in and they guy is shut out. So what do you do? You let her know it’s cool and that sex is no big deal.

Then she will fuck you later. Brad-P says Girls are not in a hurry to have sex with you. They can pretty much wait indefinitely. GUYS are in a hurry. Girls sense when guys are in a hurry and then they don’t want it anymore. So the key is – don’t be in a hurry.

That’s where freezeouts come in. But in other situations I really just like to go home, leave her wanting more and then solidify it. I used to do this alot. Then I tried hurrying the close lately after I almost got there and then I realised that THAT is why the chicks were losing interest. I was trying to CLOSE them. TRYING.

So here I have just relaxed. I was working one day and there was this sexy, hot, black chick whom I was serving. She was reading some book by the guy who wrote the Davinci Code. I started flirting but Not flirting. I wasn’t really gaming either but I sense we both knew what was going on. She turned out to be a vet. She also had a bulldog.

“We should both walk our dogs together. I love that there are so many dog-friendly places here. I’ll tell you what. Do you have facebook? Cool! If you want write your facebook down on something before you leave and I’ll be in touch.” That was that.

So HB Davinci finished her food and reading and I brought her a bill. When she left her facebook was on a napkin and for 2 days I didn’t look for it. As a matter of fact once I did she had already found me and sent me a friend request. I befriended her and left a comment to one of her updates.

Her comment was along the lines of, “Going out tonight!” or some such blah-blah. It was on her wall. She was not necessarily directing it towards me. Or was she…? I said, “Lucky you. I’ll be at work till 10.”

She replied, “I’ll stop by and say hi.”

And she did – at what time? 9:30. Dressed sexy. My S.A (Server Assistant). was like, “That’s a beautiful girl!” and then next thing you know I’m talking to her and he hears me say, “So come by at about 10 and we’ll go have a drink.”

“You know her?” he asked me all bewildered…

“Ya. She’s a friend of mine.” I replied.

“She’s beautiful!!” he repeated like he was in awe.

And so I happily finished my work shift and went outside to see if she should show up. And I waited. Another girl I work with came out and was hanging around and mentioned she was going to go have a drink at a place nearby. She was most definitely hinting. I was getting the vibe HBDavinci wasn’t coming.

I still do the 15 minute rule (Louis & Copeland) and it was like 11 minutes in… Shit!

First of all, though – let me explain the backdrop of my work situation so you can get a look into the daily experience that is Me being a Server at a french cafe so you can kinda get an idea why “chick I work with” came out hinting about going to have a drink.

I work with mostly girls. There are several very cute chicks there. There is one ethiopian, one french chick, a few eastern europeans and a couple sexy young americans that work the coffee/bakery part. The ethiopian likes me – apparently she was instrumental in getting me hired. She is definately cute as hell and pretty cool. She even rides a motorcycle. I’ll call her HBMezerat. She kisses me on the lips every day. She comes by and rubs me or brushes me or pokes me. We are very affectionate to each other. Keep in mind I work with these chicks, though, so when you say, “Well then how come you’re not fucking her yet?” my answer to you might be – well, because I work there and I will fuck her or I wont but I’m not going to blow out the set and risk weirdness at work. Just going out with this chick in public is great social proof especially when, like last night, the OTHER hot chick I work with comes along. HBFrancais is a sexy ass, well built french chick that speaks broken english. HOT. She has called me “Rrrrrrrr” a few times as if she purrs my name. She also Might like me.

We give each other eskimo kisses and shit like that but she is very naturally push-pull. She complained a couple days ago how I never called her. Then I said, “Ok we’ll go have a drink tomorrow. I promise.”

Then the next day she couldn’t but I played it perfectly. I developed the art of suggestion without ties. I will throw something out there as an open ended statement. “I’m going to have a drink after work.”

If she says, “That sounds like fun.” well then it’s on.

BUT

If she says, “I can’t tonight…” Then my response is usually something like, “No… Silly ass. I wasn’t inviting you. I already have someone who wants to hang out.”

Last night HBMezerat was trying to Coquette me complaining about a text I sent her that said “Jerk.” After she bitched about it she left to go across the street to a different bar. Trying to get me to chase. Seconds later HBFrancais noticed me sitting there NOT following them all across the street and came over to me, “You come with?”

I was like,”I dunno. I’m just chilling. I like this place.”

“Noooo. You come with.” She wasn’t demanding, she was trying to convince me with her broken english to come with them.

So I’m gaming, work style. It kinda just has to “sort of happen.” If I’m gonna fuck these chicks. HBMezerat is trying to get me to chase. I’m just kinda sitting back playing it cool. There are other girls there. I have had my ass pinched a couple times at random. I feel good at this place. I work nights alone (serving as the only server) mostly but whatever… It’s fun.

Another example: Two days ago HBMezerat came into the room where I was getting drinks or whatever. Let’s call it the kitchen. The kitchen is right next to the bake shop where the young but legally aged girl works who has a cute face BUT an amazingly tight body. So anyway, Mezerat kissed me full on the lips. The HBbakeshop said “Ooooohhhh. Nice one.” and then today I went in to check my schedule and I get hit by a wad of paper thrown by a smiling HBbakeshop… She’s flirting now. Ha! Social Proof.

On the same note but in a different way, I flirted with a chick way way back when I first got here who was working in a coffeeshop. I found out she was from My old stomping grounds – go figure. Flint, MI – Almost home of Juggler who says he’s from Flint but was really a Flushing kid. That’s a little – Alot Nicer than Flint. But he told me once his parents were the original owner’s of Mad Hatter. You’ll only know wtf I’m talking about if you too were a Flint Kid.

So The chick ended up being married to another Flint Kid. The thing is, I believe in Honor. So as cute as I think the Flint Chick is I will not try to go for her because I met the Flint guy and he’s cool people. So with that in mind now we are all friends. Cool shit. I have another Flint crew and it’s not even in Flint. AWESOME!! There’s something about a Flint crew. I can’t explain it. Some of my best memories ever were with my old Flint crew and at that time I was a hopeless AFC. Now I’m a cool guy. The girl is giving me shit all the time now. She said playfully last time we hung out, “You’re not getting any pussy tonight. You’re chilling with the crew.” and then goes into this story about how she sees me talking to this girl or that girl and how she feels bad because they’re always like, “WTF. There goes R—— again talking to some chick.” and how they’re already on their way to this place or that so they’re accidentally cbing me. Not really. Why?

Because then she went into another story about her cute roomate who would totally be awesome for a guy like me. “She’s just like you. She can fuck a guy and be like, “that was that!” and not get all attached.” You guys should really meet each other. And I met her today by chance as I went to get a coffee at the place where the Flint Chick works. So I did my proper timebridge on a warm set and soon enough… Wednesday night we are going to “Walk my Dog.” That’s my lazy man’s approach to a Timebridge. Sonics took a picture of my dog and sent it to me. It’s a BEAUTIFUL pic of my bulldog with his mouth open. It looks like he’s smiling. So I always show women the pic. Done deal. But I digress so without further ado;

Now back to our story: So the chick who came out to hint at a drink with me is an entirely different server and I almost bit too but seconds later here came HBDavinci. PS – No dog. I love how a timebridge works. The actual reason we’re hanging out is almost never the actual thing we do. Not that I don’t LOVE my dog. However, we did walk back to my house a few blocks away and get my dog. I really don’t want to keep calling my dog “my dog” but his name is totally recognisable so I have to think up an Alias; a wing name if you will. I got it… Toby!

So we went and got Toby – it’s kinda the David DeAngelo bit about going in and leaving again. That’s what we did. On the walk to G—-V– I was kinoing her around her back and moving a little to not make the kino stale. I think I’ve heard some guys shit all over the concept of putting your hand on the small of the back, “Creepy small of the back guy!” or whatever. However just like alot of this shit it’s not the What but the HOW.

I learned from a Lesbian Friend of mine, HBSmokey, that women love it when you Massage the small of the back. They have alot of tension there. That’s where the small of the back thing came from. It’s just that guys don’t really know that for the most part so they just stand there all douchy like with their hand hovering on the small of her back looking like a retard. However, I usually do 2 places. The back of their neck or the small of their back and I am kneading with my fingers. Lightly on the neck and a little more forceful on the small. They like it alot. So if you wanna put your arm around her and put your hand on the small of her back, make it useful and you’ll set yourself apart from the rest of the chodes out there. Even routine it. “Women have alot of tension in the small of your backs. How’s this feel…? Alright but that’s all you get.”

Soon – Bam, her arm was around my back in return before we even got to our first day2 venue. Once we got there it was chit-chat and a couple light routines maybe and soon I just went for the kiss. Done deal. I don’t really even say much anymore. I just know when it’s time to kiss for the BEST effect. I’m not talking Club Makeout; I’m talking about kissing them when it’s seductive and escalates the interaction sexually. Like the sexual door opens and I step through at the right time. You learn this by skipping all the Kiss Routines and just feeling it in your gut. Instinct. When you’re with a girl you will FEEL it. Things will be progressing and your body will tell you, “Kiss her now.” You do. It doesn’t matter where you’re at or when it happens. She’s feeling it too so fuck it, just go for it. You may even fail. She may turn away. But it’s there and EVEN in many cases where a chick denied me at first it REALLY set the tone and I ended up fucking her anyway.

In the other extreme when I was afraid to go for it when my body said GO the interaction would stale, especially if I said, “Well I’ll just wait till the right time.” The right time is when you’re body says GO because according to the book, “The One Hour Orgasm.” when you are feeling something like that it is BECAUSE she is feeling it too. Like you are sending primal messages to each other on an instinctive level.

You can get an idea by watching videos like the ones at Girlkiss.com Sounds stupid but they really do put on a good act of capturing the IOM for kissing. PS – Don’t get all hot and masturbate to it – it’s for EDUCATION. Save it for the field.

Plus the seduction location Grand Vin is a GREAT place. Not too busy, not too not busy. It’s a quaint old house with a nice sized 2 tier patio outside and usually there is a cool live band playing on one corner of the upper tier of the patio. Lot’s of wine, good selection of beer and I’m socially proofed with the staff already. The gal that works there likes to give me a big hug and we usually kiss each other full on the lips when I go there to chill. Perfect mood-setting location if you are EVER in Key West. (PS – if you are look me up! This is a virtual PUA playground.)

Grand Vin Wine Bar – Key West, FL

So we’re sitting, listening to music. She’s drinking wine and me beer. I think back at my house I started doing Brad-P smart Girl tests to her. Anytime there was a moment where I couldn’t think of something to keep the interaction flowing I would fall back on the Smart-Girl tests and ask some random question. “What’s the capital of Bolivia?” Then I would give her ratings. “Right now you’re about 60% I dunno. I mean you’re pretty good; a D if you were in school. That’s passing.”

Then I switched them up.. The questions over time became a little more… Louis and Copeland/Ross Jeffries. What’s your favorite thing about kissing? She said, “Hmmm. I’d have to think about that one.” Paydirt. now she’s thinking so while she was I switched the question.

“Ya. Ok. If you could think about the most amazing kiss you’ve ever had, how would you describe it?” Then she answered me and I picked out the trance words and fed it back followed by the ever popular, “…Now… With me, It’s something that’s really different and amazing.”

Grand Vin – Inside at the bar – don’t worry – none of these girls are people I know… 😉

Something like that.

Then eventually we were on to something else and I think I just upped the kino (back of the neck, brush her cheek, quick peck on the cheek, quick peck on the back of the neck, more brushing cheek-back of neck and then…. In! Maybe that seems like alot but really if you’re doing this constant kino style from the beginning (yes you kinda have to escalate to this point) then it should almost be natural. In other words, it’s no big deal because you’re incorporating it into the entire set While you’re doing your other stuff.)

Good kisser too! PDA is a great sign for me on a day-2. It always means it’s going further. This is a FAR different vibe than cheesy club make out where the chick never talks to you again. Eventually we finished our drinks, grabbed some more hootch (there’s a liquor store RIGHT across the street from me as well as a 2 bars – all the fixins.) and back to my house.

I hooked up my laptop to my stereo, sat in this plastic lawn chair that is currently the only seating in my front room, and plugged it in. I picked out a mix by Roger Sanches. I looked at her standing next to me and asked, “You ever listen to Roger Sanches?” and then we started making out. I thought that was awesome as a kiss close! next thing you know she was in my lap and soon enough she was naked. I noticed something though – Pad…

No. Not Pad-Thai. Pad-Time of the Month.

Oh well. We madeout for a LOOOONG time and I got almost full access. Meanwhile I was seeding anti-asd kinda stuff because I knew I was not fucking a girl I just met in the Red-Zone. If you’re like WTF? Ask Sonics to write a post if he hasn’t already.

So no… Ha! I didn’t fuck her that night. We talked about it later; Sonics and I; and he reminded me of a theory I have heard several times from “Guru’s” throughout the community, “If you don’t !close a chick after you’re in Seduction she will Backwards Rationalize that she didn’t want to have sex with you and you’re done for.”

In other words – if you don’t fuck her the first night (assuming you’ve gone sexual), you wont fuck her. But BEFORE I knew that rule it was common practice for me to do just that. I would go really sexual with a chick and then not necessarily fuck her. Then she would come back later and I’d finish the deal. It has happened not just a couple time, but several times.

Yes there are times I have gotten to third base with a chick and then that’s all, but I’m not complaining. Lol… Here’s a little secret about what makes me tick. It’s NOT so much the Fucking her, it’s the UNDRESSING her. Meeting a chick, talking to her and then going through the steps to have her naked in front of me, while many times I still haven’t even taken my shirt off yet is So fucking sexy to me. Sure I follow suit soon enough but it’s just the point. Here’s some chick who was eating a Panini in my restaurant one minute and the next she has no clothes on and I was the one who removed them with her complete participation!

(insert 3rd bass youtube video – the cactus)

I mean, think about that. That’s AWESOME! This chick’s body too…!? She admitted to doing yoga, but she was of Haitian descent. What’s that mean. Her upper body was TIGHT. Like solid. Her tits were not too big/not too small and fit perfectly for her tones stomach and shoulders BUT – Then she had this amazing Black-Girl ass! WOOHOO!!! I really couldn’t keep my hands off it. Jesus! So here I am all excited as shit but I have to see her again.

So what do I do…? I’ve tried everything by now. Guess what works the best?

Nothing. (Or at least a huge “I don’t give a shit” vibe.)

That’s the gist of it. When I send them a text the next day saying I had fun, or Good times or really ANYTHING like that it’s OVER! So I thought back and realized…. The ones I fucked after were the ones I really didn’t chase after they left without fucking me. So in her case I DIDN’T contact her at all the next day.

Soon enough she sent me a text literally telling me how she regretted LEAVING my house that night. I had, at my home, successfully seeded AND timebridged to see her again wednesday of the following week. My texts were simple and to the point. “Good things come to those who wait.” And “Wednesday night…”

That was it.

She sent me back, “Wednesday night! ”

And wednesday night she came over, we fucked, done deal. The sexual STATE was already there. I didn’t really have to do shit. IOM was still going when she came over. It was (pardon my cliche) so think in the air you could cut it with a knife.

So now, I have a very flirty vibe at work, I have a day4 tonight with an FB, I have a day2 tomorrow with a cute chick that my Flint Crew hooked me up with. And ALSO I have sporadic slow track follow-ups with a couple chicks who I threw into the mix. HBIvy is one of them and there are a few more minor seductions involved that really haven’t progressed enough to write about. Mostly they are on slow track game.

There is something I thought about last night. I am, if I am going to give myself a rating, a Green-PUA; a Green-charm. To me, this is how it should be for someone to have hit that point of BASIC Pua-ness. I am No Longer an AFC or even an rAFC (which, I believe that MOST people who call themselves PUA really are.) but I have stepped it up. Women are starting to be abundant in my life and really, I’m not even trying really hard. I maybe go out a couple times a week (OUT-out) and the rest is just picking up naturally without really going out of my way to do it. I’m sure if I wasn’t lazy about pick-up I could already be AMAZING but… Well… I am a simple man. I’m not trying to be the best in the world. I’m not trying to be the Champion of PUAs to impress other guys. I just love the company of women. I don’t wanna go out and do 18 sets a night. I want women to be magnetically drawn to me. I think it’s starting to happen.

When I save money again I will be doing a workshop to see what good Really Is. I keep hearing that term thrown around lately in my PUA studies. “Most guys think they’re good until they see what Good really is.”

I will see, I will find out, I will emulate and I will throw in my own, “Kick it up a notch!” like Emeril and THEN… Then I’ll know what “Good” really is.

PS – If you are reading this and like what I wrote – Get your ass to Key West for a minute. This is a place to come to run some game.

The Seduction of Rainbow Dash Part 3

Tsod:

This is where I continue the stylishly cool journal type conversational thread ala Bram Stoker’s Dracula about the Seduction of Rainbow Dash.  If you’re like, “WTF is this shit?” feel free to check out The Seduction of Rainbow Dash part 1 and part 2.  We Start with a reply from someone about what you would have read in those last two articles, from the Super Secret Message Board I am a member of.  For fun and for ease of reading I will make my replies in Italics.

« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2013, 06:08 PM »

That’s why, I believe to number close few chicks, when going out. Decreases needs of dealing with BS situations like that. Anyway good job Ronnie.

« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2013, 01:52 AM »

BS – – – ? The best and most fun stuff is playing this kind of game; especially when…

Well. Especially when we end up back at my place in my bed completely naked doing naughty shit to each other

But ya, man. That texting was fun. So was dealing with her other shit. She’s 21. If a guy thinks a quality 21 year old chick is not going to give them shit to have to bypass then that guy probably hasn’t slept with many.

In the long run, she has/had fabulous titties, ass, legs, yummy vagina and more. So to me a little text battle is WELL worth the payout. Dude… She’s SOOOOOoooo Sexy.

So EVERYONE have hope- This 39 year old dude, Not like Hot and Sexy and In Amazing Shape, but probably an Average in appearance 39 year old dude, just got with a 21 year old who said guys CONSTANTLY hit on her.

I’m twice her age. FYI. I don’t ever want to hear ANY excuses from anyone why you can’t hook up with this chick or that.

« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2013, 10:58 AM »

One quick cliff note anyone can use TONIGHT.

LMR/Buyer’s Remorse destroyer (Credit Sonics) – You say to the girl when you are starting to get hot and heavy, “No matter what we do tonight, promise me it wont be the last time we see each other.”

Use your own words. There isn’t a magic phrase. I might have even said, “…promise me it wont be the last time we chill..” or “promise me we’ll hang out again after this.” Whatever makes sense when you say it. Of course, Don’t say it if you don’t wanna see the chick again, because it works!

LMR is GONE. And if you want to see the chick again you Win. For a LOT of chicks you can turn them into repeat customers.

Text from this morning (If you like the chick (wanna see her again) and you get sex action going on you should DEFINITELY send her a follow up text or call the next day, as well.)

Me: Had fun last night, brat. Have a good day

Her: Thanks Cutie 🙂 You too

Something about having a sexy 21 year old chick calling me cutie that floats my ego a little…

« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2013, 12:23 PM »

Well, txting as such is definitely fun, if you got time… Something, I’m lacking recently This is definitely a true PUA skill, not to downgrade you, but 39 hooking up with 21 year old, is like a typical L.A story, where young chicks hook up with older guys with money. You did it simply using skills, so kudos ( I assume you’re not a millionaire )

« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2013, 02:14 PM »

Quote from: Ronnie L-Train on January 25, 2013, 01:52 AM
If a guy thinks a quality 21 year old chick is not going to give them shit to have to bypass then that guy probably hasn’t slept with many.

Great point. I’m in LA right now, where there’s an incredible amount of hotties. I’ve also never seen so much shit from chicks. It’s ridiculous. I mean if you pass a chick on the street and just say a friendly social “hi”, they will NEVER respond.

Anyways, great re-frame in the texts. Especially when she started turning around – you didn’t bite initially and went with “however”. But also at that point you didn’t push her away too much. I’m definitely going to learn from that.

Here’s my question: how long was your response time to her texts? Often when I’m texting I’ll feel that what I initially want to respond with isn’t good, so I have to take time thinking up something better…

« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2013, 02:59 PM »

Well, L.A is a different lifestyle. Priorities for people over there’s nice car, clothing or hair. In Chicago for instance, people rather spend money on the nice house, than a brand new luxury car. Over there’s Hollywood, Beverly Hills, so go figure. Night Game, however, (and keep in mind, I only did one night of gaming there) is quite easy. Girls were really responsive, I’d say even more than in Chicago.  I couldn’t close for logistical reasons (I had a job training at Long Beach, and hotel was booked there, so quite a distance), but I believe it was doable.

« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2013, 03:51 PM »

Quote from: ********** on January 25, 2013, 12:23 PM
Well, txting as such is definitely fun, if you got time… Something, I’m lacking recently This is definitely a true PUA skill, not to downgrade you, but 39 hooking up with 21 year old, is like a typical L.A story, where young chicks hook up with older guys with money. You did it simply using skills, so kudos ( I assume you’re not a millionaire )

Yes, just skills. And this was no easy feat. When I started Kino last night she called me on it. “Why are you touching me every chance you get!?”

Lots of frame control. And then we got into a conversation about how she though I was so much older than her and she thought it was weird for me to be touching her. All it took was for me to get her talking about other guys she has hooked up with. She admitted that she dated a guy for a while (but never slept with him, it sounded like) who was 35. So once I got that out of her I was like “blah” and where I used to dive in, back in the day, and try and focus on and fix the resistance, I just danced around it and went right back into talking about sexual stuff.

At first she was shy, we were in a restaurant with almost no one there and her social programming was like, “I’m not sure I feel comfortable talking about this in public.”

And I gestured to the empty tables and referred to the nice Ethiopian lady and said, “You mean all these people listening in on our conversation, and our waitress who barely speaks English?”

So more and more we started talking about sexual stuff. It’s hot, because these younger girls seem so much more experienced a lot of times than women who are my age. Maybe it’s porn but they always do something sexually that surprises me, that I’m like “where did this girl fucking learn this stuff?”

Anyway, no… No money. And I don’t think it’s the classic LA story with these Chicago girls at all. I could easily think back to times where I would have failed miserably at a chick like this. Frame control, reframing, dealing with shit-tests, being quick on my feet and lots of leading. I’ve closed lots of chicks up till now, and I can tell you this could easily have been fucked up at so many points during this interaction it’s not even funny. This is one of the ones worth writing about because it was so difficult.

L.A. Story – one of my favorite movies back in the day…

Quote from: ******on January 25, 2013, 02:14 PM
Quote from: Ronnie L-Train on January 25, 2013, 01:52 AM
If a guy thinks a quality 21 year old chick is not going to give them shit to have to bypass then that guy probably hasn’t slept with many.

Great point. I’m in LA right now, where there’s an incredible amount of hotties. I’ve also never seen so much shit from chicks. It’s ridiculous. I mean if you pass a chick on the street and just say a friendly social “hi”, they will NEVER respond.

Anyways, great re-frame in the texts. Especially when she started turning around – you didn’t bite initially and went with “however”. But also at that point you didn’t push her away too much. I’m definitely going to learn from that.

Here’s my question: how long was your response time to her texts? Often when I’m texting I’ll feel that what I initially want to respond with isn’t good, so I have to take time thinking up something better…

At first with the girls I make them wait. Even this chick, we did some texting before the text example above, but in that case it was more pinging, fun texts and just me keeping myself on her radar. In that case if they are responding I will wait a LONG TIME to actually respond. I don’t want to make text a conversation, but I do want to use it to keep me in her mind.

Look at it this way, if you say something fun, and she responds, then she is waiting for you to respond. Now chicks are WAY better at this than we are IMO – you will never see chicks (cute, sexy ones anyway) doing dumb shit like texting, then texting you again to double check their text;

IE:

“What are you doing tonight?”

“Oh, well I hope you’re not too busy because it would be nice to see you.”

Or some shit guys might do. But still, the whole time we make them wait you are at LEAST in the back of her mind. That means on some level, she is thinking about you.

But then sometimes I’ll reply once or twice pretty quick. I like to keep in mind Raccoon Theory. Always keep them guessing. If you ALWAYS do the same thing she will expect it. So Change it up. Actually the more she seems invested in a response from you the LONGER I would make her wait for that answer. Always try to end the text on a high note so when she’s thinking about you it’s a good thing, expectation, not a bad thing.

In the case of her flaking texts, I responded not like too fast but at the same time just matched her response time. Look, if she wasn’t interested AT ALL she would have never even texted me in the first place. There was a part of her that wanted to hang out on some level, maybe even on some deep level. That doesn’t mean she would have, if my text game wasn’t on point she just simply would have backwards rationalized, “Yep, that guy sucked. I’m glad I didn’t go out with him.”

The text convo from above was her LAST CHANCE to me and there was a time I for sure would have blown it, and I am of the belief that MANY, MANY guys would blow it as well.

I mean, I’m pretty sure in many places it’s STILL community Dogma that, “If a chick tried to flake on me I NEXT HER! My time is very valuable as the Alpha Male and I don’t have time for Flaky Chicks.”

However the women I’ve talked to, including LESBIANS, have informed me that Flakiness is actually to be expected. It’s NORMAL. So guys who are saying, “I don’t have time for these flaky women,” are probably either not getting any ass OR if they are they are only used to getting (to coin a cool Chicago Lair phrase )the Low Hanging Fruit. The whole Alpha Male shit about Nexting a Flaky Bitch comes from Inexperience and Overcompensating the lack there of, with trying to make oneself feel like an Alpha Male; when in reality it’s just protecting one’s fragile ego and feelings.

You can’t Next a girl you never fucked. ~Tyler Durden

So when it came to the text convo above she was responding rather quick and so I could as well. But the SLOW texting that I was doing before probably made this MORE possible being that I wasn’t coming across as the “needy, clingy guy who always texts alot”.

Make Sense?

« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2013, 04:45 PM »

Ronnie, did you go dutch at the restaurant or did you pay?
Also did you pick her up (via car)?

Just curious.

« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2013, 05:13 PM »

I paid. I wanted to go eat out. That was the plan.

To help you understand my philosophy on this, I have heard many different beliefs and it comes down to what David X once said:

It’s not about whether or not you buy her drinks or dinner or whatever, it’s HOW you do it and WHY you do it.

I didn’t buy dinner to impress her, I bought her dinner because I wanted to go out to eat… So I picked a cheap Ethiopian BYOB very close to my place…

David X Quotes, “I don’t give a shit what she does with her dinner. As far as I’m concerned I bought it for her. She can eat it, or pick at it or throw it on the floor. What the fuck do I care? I bought it for her, I don’t give a shit what she does with it at that point.” When talking about a date he was on where the chick was picking at her salad instead of eating it, and commented about it.

To me, if I want to take a chick to go eat, that’s the choice I made. I think a guy who AVOIDS going to dinner because he feels it’s supplication is NO BETTER off than the guy that supplicates to the chick and pays for her shit expecting something in return. (Wrap your mind around that one… )

Oh and I ALWAYS drive if I can. But if you don’t have a car most definitely plan your date close to home OR Cab > Train/Bus.

Next:  The Finale….. Stay Tuned!~

Sidecar:

Of COURSE this post reminded me of a cool ass movie I used to watch when I would substitute being lonely with Romantic Comedies …

If you haven’t seen it, though, watch this movie anyway.  L.A. Story is the Shit!

I’ll actually probably watch it tonight for fun.

My favorite line from the Movie:

Sara:  It’s nothing that some sleep and a good fuck wouldn’t cure, as my sister used to say.  (You have to see the scene to really appreciate this line.)

The Seduction of Rainbow Dash Part 2

Tsod:

Continued from you clicking the previous post button… 😉

Where were we…  Oh ya.

So last time I left off – but to try and get some people learning in the Super Secret Forum, I basically challenged a couple guys with this:

I will buy a couple beers for the person who can actually finish the rest for me, as long as you are 80% accurate… 😉

I did, of course have someone answer that challenge.  His name is Matty-J.  So let me break this down.  The texts will be blue, Matty’s will be Gold and my writing will be this normal light greyish color…  This should be an interesting read.

« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2013, 03:26 PM »

Me: She texted me 15 minutes later and told me I seemed like a nice guy.

Her: “Hmm, he SEEMS like a nice guy” – Tommy Boy

She’s still not convinced, but is open to hearing more. she’s flirting here.

Good.

Me: So the next rational step I could think of was, “Hey . She seems cool and she seems to think I;m cool so we should go adventure in the city. I could show her some cool shit. I could take her to Wicker Park and maybe get her into some place to watch some punk bands or whatever and she could relate and go “Cool! I didn’t even know this part of the city was here!” And we could do the normal shit 2 cool people do together and have this fun.

think that it’s important that you choose a non-specific “safe” location and mentioned that YOU could get her into somewhere implying that she will be taken care of.  

and then you close with the best part which is .. bringing her to a safe place in her mind. 

who doesn’t love feeling like hey, cool I never knew this place was here!

combined with more rational logical subs.. 

Not exactly. What I was doing here was actually being REAL with her. I was salting and peppering the “real and logical” statements, because this is REALLY how I think. I’m an awesome, adventurous guy, with a lot of cool shit going on and all that, so I decided, I can be Mr Cocky Funny, or I can just tell her – “Look, this is who I am.”

Somtimes guys get stuck in Attraction and they forget to downshift and just have real moment “game” (if you want to call it that) for a bit where you show her who you are.

Her: Ah, shush. Alright alright. I need to get some research done first but I can meet you at 8. I’ll probably be at the coffee plac then anyway

sounds like a shit test…wall.. did you guys meet @ the coffee place? it would be a disaster if you ended the convo right here. not enough comfort

Not a shit test at ALL – Guys get in the mindset that everything is a shit test, or you always have to be gaming. I was just real with her so she is like, OK, I ‘ll be real back. At this point I could have actually just stopped the text and she most likely still would have been there. She made up her mind I was ok. However, I actually wanted to just play a little.

In person, when she bites what I am doing in this text is a NO NO! If a girl is ready to go to your place or make out or whatever key moment there is and you over-game, you’re OUT! You can do this in text, text can be fun. Just realize the difference between the two: Fun game in text vs Over game in person.

Me: HOWEVER !

there you go.. step around the wall 
like the however part too.. in caps +! strikes an emotional response of hmm.. what’s he gonna say next it must be important. 

In a way, yes but It’s only for fun. It’s not meant to be a serious line but, ya, it does go with the narrative and creating that sort of silly suspense.

Me: Apparently you have friends in the FBI and they must have found out about my Nefarious Underworld Connections, and that I’m not a cool guy at all but Really I’m one of the 5 Bosses of the Notorious Chicago Drug Cartel. I am surrounded at all times by my bitches and hoes and my collection of Gangster Clients.

now you’ve done it! your not only a cool rational normal guy but you also have a great sense of humor. the point of this is to build comfort with her to show her that.

The comfort was built (at least the TEXT comfort which is NOT the same as REAL TIME comfort at all) 2 texts ago when I was being REAL with her. This is more like DESTROYING any more thoughts of me being dangerous, by being completely outlandish. It’s like if someone were to give me a red flower. Then I told someone about the flower later saying, “It was this bright, red, flower – fucking totally beautiful.”

But then further down the road said to that person, “That flower I told you about… It was this bright-red Glowing flower, that was blindingly bright. When it got dark out I actually could use it as a flashlight it was so fucking glowy. And fuck all this winter shit, that flower was so red and bright it was actually emitting heat. No seriously, I have it on my patio right now so I can go sit out there in shorts and a t-shirt and still be warm.”

That’s a lame example but I took what she gave me, bumped it up a slight notch and then made it into the realms of ridiculous movie shit. The after effect is that I’m fun.

Her: Ahahahahah, wow. Okay, now I think you are entirely too amusing to not talk to again in person

translation: okay I’ll give you a chance to see me but I still don’t feel that comfortable.. and don’t get all creepy

Wrong. Maybe it’s me, but I like to take things like this (when she says something positive about me) at face value. She actually is totally in and saying that I have taken her from uncomfortable about the idea to VERY comfortable about the idea. She’s not saying when I get there she’s going to drop and give me a blowjob, but she is saying “Yes, you seem fun. Ok! I’m totally in!

Me: HAHA! I’ll make sure to wear my big feather hat and purple fur coat.

Have some more comfort. you laugh it off like like haha I amuse you..and then roll with it..just keep stepping around the wall 

True!

Me: See you l8r. I’ll try to keep my bitches in check

okay.. time to end it on a high note. after all, these are only texts. how did you intend to close her? did you guys previously talk about the coffee shop or something? btw off topic but I can’t help but picture you in a fkn purple pimp suit walking into some little quiet coffee shop with all the kids on their laptops being like yo’ bitch! What up! You know what time it is..wonder if she was thinking the same thing..

So she’s going to take a little more work… I made the first date short. It would do me NO GOOD to try and extract this chick our first time out. I don’t care if my game was Super Fucking Magic RossJeffries and Mystery and Hypnotica had a wonderchild, there was no way that this day2 would end up in sex.

So the plan was have a short date. Hit some checkpoints to remove her resistance and instill in her that I’m a safe guy AND get the sexual ball rolling. One without the other would be useless. So I took her to a couple different places in my car and ended up cutting the date short with a timebridge about a couple days from then, i.e. tomorrow night. Also, along the way I made definite escalation. We were talking about fucking and sex and there was this point towards the end of the night where we were in my car, driving her to her neighborhood, where she was talking about the ONLY 1 night stand she ever had.

I piggybacked off the story about the guys she had a 1 night stand with and said, “Sound almost like me. I kinda the same way, but it would be more like plenty of orgasms and no one ever had to know.”

She said, “What kind of orgasms?”

I said, “Plenty.” Then I start my routine about orgasms and why I like giving them. She says, “Nice. I haven’t had an orgasm from someone else in 4 years.” I was like, “You haven’t had one in 4 years?”

She said, “I mean, I can give them to myself but haven’t from other people.”

I looked over at her for about 5 seconds as if observing her and then simply said, “10 minutes.” I could tell she liked that idea. Next date we escalate…

Her: Lol. Don’t forget the cain!

dont’ forget about me!

Now she’s just playing along. It’s a good sign.

Me: Oh you mean my cain with the big crystal and gold rose at the top of it? . Ya. I’ll make sure I have it with me. That how I get RESPECT !

Her: Oh – Kay. . . Lol. Where are me meeting again?

what happens if you do all this and she replies something of the nature.. Lol

do you have to text her back for a place and time? or was that an understanding you guys had to meet up @ the coffee shop?

very cool how you took an objection of her’s reframed it to make you look interesting 
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Ya, from here it’s just – Ok blah blah blah we’re meeting at this place and time blah blah blah. Nothing special. Maybe there were one or 2 more jokes about the drug dealer/pimp stuff but I just wanted to get to logistics and not risk overgaming. Then we meet.

We’ll see what happens tomorrow. You only get 1 beer but you have to buy me one too. You sill have much to learn, grasshopper….

Text is hard shit though. Imagine sucking at text game for YEARS since the inception OF text. Ya, for like 5 LONG YEARS I was fucking HORRIBLE at text game. Sometimes I could make some cool shit happen but it was more luck – what do they call it, conscious competence, but only to a point because it wasn’t even competence until recently. Truth be told I might still be in the Conscious Competence phase, but my text game is phenomenal so it’s more like Conscious Phenomenality (which I think is a word I just made up).

To be continued in part 3