Constant Kino 2.0 (Revisited)

I think this is a good clarification on Kino, and how to create that lasting, escalation type connection and keep it going.   If you’re wondering what all this is about, go back and read Constant Kino and A Short Cut Through Kino Escalation.  This is a followup to that post.

Here are some replies to that post from other forums.  I’ll post them and my responces to help clear up any questions you lurkers and other guys might have had.

REPLY #1
“Fascinating. I do have a few questions. So, what exactly do you mean by “constant” if you’re saying that it shouldn’t actually be constant? You need to touch her 50% of the time that you’re together, 90% but factor extra time when you’re not close enough to touch? Also, what type of touch would you recommend and in what proportion? Obviously you want to go easy on the sexy touch styles on non-sexy areas (slow and very lightly, regularly arrythmic, patterned pressure, etc. etc.). Comfortable touches like aren’t-we-awesome-friends would be the staple, but that’s a wide open field. Should your body language be more protective when you’re using this type of contact, or should you be more independent? What’s the objective in direct terms- is it to make the girl as comfortable as possible, or to make her enjoy your presence, or to feel intimate?

Good concept- I will use this.”

Thanks man,Kino

(I’m going to try to answer your questions, while also explaining it a little more.)
Sorry about the confusion, It should be constant… just not to the point where you are taking her everywhere you want to go…

Here’s the rule I use:
“If she’s close enough to touch her, I will.”
(Once you guys are comfortable with one another, you be the judge here (better to do than to think, assume attraction and comfort from the get go <someone that was right>)

By touch I mean ANY PART of my body is in CONTACT with any part of HER BODY.

I didn’t write my rule in the original post because I thought if some weird guy was reading it he’d be putting his weird paws all over a girl in weird ways and him not knowing what he’s doing is weeeird! Here’s a way to not be weird… be comfortable with being touched and be comfortable with touching a girl. Think of touch as “No big deal” and then you can start with the Constant Kino.

Ideally 100% of the time she’s in range and she’s being good. A lot of the time it just won’t seem right, like you just started hanging out with a girl and she’s giving you the not yet vibe. “Let’s see if you fit” or at most after about 30 minutes on the day 2 you should be very very close to having it 100%. (After car time if you drove together)

If you’re at a bar it’s really easy to get it. Try sitting with a set at a table and take up space… spread your legs while you’re sitting and have your legs/knees touching both girls in the set while you’re talking and listening to them talk; this sets up a neat interaction. Remember, it’s normal for YOU to be doing this. Not a rule; but to me it feels more natural to go Constant Kino on a re-open, if not on a day 2, on a day 2 she wants it Constant as much as you do.

You’ll also notice that even when you’re not talking directly to the girl even with the slightest form of this that the person will listen to you more intently, even if it’s been there for a few minutes.

Think of this, you’re at a table next to your target and in comes an interrupt or she starts talking to someone else. (Girls that are sitting are easier to pick up.) If your legs are spread and one of them is up against her leg, she knows you’re there and she likes the fact that it is touching her so why not let her talk to whomever she wants? You’re not claiming her; but it’s still decided. The fact that she doesn’t move the leg away should be enough for you to know. Stare Decisis <Latin for decision final or to stand by the decision> She’ll be back to you in a second if you were doing well before the interrupt. Now if some douche PUA (I’ll write PUA because natural or not he’s there to get your girl) comes into your set trying to impress his friends by swooping your chick and you feel that ignoring the guy isn’t in your best interest, proceed to normal befriending and if necessary AMOGing. (I like a combination of the both, sort of like push pull. <Swinggcat has a lot of good theory on push pull> Also note that a lot of the time these guys make great terrible wings). I’ve never had a real AMOG come into my sets, just douche’s. “Hey ladies can I buy you a drink?” … douche’s.

What type of touches would I recommend?

All kinds. You’re still going to have to escalate just keep it constant…

Aren’t-we-awesome-friends type touches?

I’ve never really hit the LJBF zone for too long, so yeah.

Protective touches?

No, not unless you have to push her out of the way of a speeding bus or similar.

Independent touching?

Yes definitely be independent. It shouldn’t bother you in the slightest if you see this as a playful game. I laugh when a girl wants me to stop; really, I chuckle and stop till later. If it’s getting late and the girl has been teasing me for an hour, I’ll get up and leave and say something like “this is too much for me, I’m gonna explode if I don’t leave” (a real take away, after all the little freeze outs <MM> then get up and leave. She’ll chase, I’ll give her one more chance for the full close, if she still doesn’t want to then maybe there’ll be a day 3. I haven’t gone past a day 3 without full monty since High school, I won’t. The real stuff happens after sex <All PUA’s to the best of my knowledge>

What’s the objective in direct terms?

I would say the point of this is to get her comfortable with touching you while at the same time having her actually like touching you. Pick up is two ways. You can then take it any direction you want by how you escalate the situation. La la la we like touching each other, Foreplay dry humping heavy petting with make outs, or experimental vibrating egg in her ass sex. It’s great for all types of relationships.

Thanks for your reply.

REPLY #2
“I gotta be the one ask bro, but doesn’t that Lance Mason pickup 101 already teach this idea to ppl? I mean he doesn’t call it constant kino but his examples straight from the Cliff’s list videos suggest kinoing the chick with a HI-5 and then grabbing the hand and holding it while you talk. OR directing her attention to something at the same time as you kino her (arm around back or shoulders) and continue talking to get that kino going then keeping it. Your technique and what he teaches sound very similar except he sort of suggests that if you are congruent you can do it right away; in other words if you’re “that guy” who just seems to touch people naturally then you can start extended kino from the start with a little calibration.

His idea is Kino as much as you can as early as you can for extended periods with the occasional mysery throwoff or pushaway but done more playful as opposed to dicky.

So I guess Im wondering, is there a difference and what are they or is it just your way of explaining the concept?”

Cool,

The idea behind this has been known for ever and a day. For me it started with PDA and my virginity girl back in High School… we always touched each other. Always. PDA couple of the world! People or not we were touching. Purpose or not, we were touching.

L Mason was onto something, and he’s probably pretty dope in field he most likely even uses Constant Kino; but I feel like his technique with the high five hand grab behind the back finger fan thing was made for flash, for students to say “WoW”, kind of like Mehow’s Pure Kino (both are awesome for demos)… I’m not talking smack here, these guys know their shit.

Kino 2There is nothing spectacular about what I’m trying to explain here… I really don’t believe I’ve ever read or heard anything about this before. So you’re in set and for some reason your knees are touching this girl? So what? Not at all intrusive, nothing big going on, low pressure, you’re not facing the girl, she’s next to you, the only thing is, is your knee is touching her at all times.

In my last reply I almost wrote that Constant Kino is all touching without touching (w/o using your hands). Can you see what I’m saying here? I didn’t write that because the idea behind this is in the name, Constant Kino is all Kino, at ALL TIMES, keep it Constant. You still can do whatever kino you were doing before just always be doing some kind. I’ve never read anywhere to be in set and have the toes of your shoes touching while you converse.

The base line of this kind of Kino would probably be called Proximity Kino in community terms. But the idea behind what I’m writing is to always be, constantly, at least having Proximity Kino going on.

At the beginning of my original post I wrote that people have most likely been doing this naturally for years, like those old couples that always touch, affectionate or just proximity, they’re touching. (I used old people because they’re just so darn cute and they’ve been around longer than the community.

Picture this, you walk into a girls apartment and she has 4 friends over and they are all hanging all over each other leaning this way and that one has her leg over two others while another has her head in ones lap watching TV, I’ve seen this in real life on a Friday night, crazy. That is Constant Kino. They’re not trying to hook up with each other, they just love touch, that feeling of belonging.

Call it whatever you want, Extended Kino, Continuous Kino, Infinity Kino, I personally like Constant Kino… Like when it all boils down there is still this constant that is always there, constantly. Mainly this idea was and is for me, I’m just sharing it with the few that pay attention.

I wrote this hoping to help guys, not to invent something new. However, I don’t believe it’s ever been explained as clear as this before. I’ve been writing about Constant Kino on targets since my first LR a year and a half ago, there should be a quite a few mentions on the DPUA site.

Kino as much as you can as early as you can?

Sure; but I’m saying after 30 minutes it never stops.

Thanks for the reply.

-Sonics

Sonic’s Routines and Techniques

San Diego Seduction huddle 2

San Diego Seduction huddle 2 (Photo credit: Gordaen)

Check it out!  I know a lot of guys like routines.  I use them sometimes, sometimes I do not.  I have nothing against them, however since I think people tell stories to everyone they know, even if they aren’t trying to seduce them.  We all have things we say and do that are repetitive to the people in our life.  “My friend and I were at this party once and, dude, holy shit!  You should have seen what this one chick did.”

So my very short words of wisdom before we get into this Reblog is don’t get all kerfuckered about using routines.  It’s fine.  If it helps you get your mouth moving until you can do it more naturally then cool.  Or, like in my case, if I run out of stuff to say (very rare these days) or the conversation with a chick ends up touching on the subject of a routine I know (more likely) then I will use one!

Why am I reblogging this?  2 reasons.

1.  Sonics was my wing back in the day and he knew his shit!

2.  These are great routines.  Back on Masf, Sonics had a rating of Mastermind.

Enjoy!

Sonic’s Routines and Techniques

I really don’t like using routines more than a few times it seems a little weird to me (unless I’m in another city or I’ve been drinking or I’m plowing like crazy to pass the time until something better comes along, even plowing I barley use routines). However, I do use “routines” every now and then while sarging… mostly on the 9+’s

I’ve laid 23 different girls in the last year and a half and have only had two ONSs, the rest are/were short term FB type relationships; all with condoms, “evolve” Trojan Condoms. That’s after a 1.5 year pre-game dry spell; this game stuff is for real.

I’m not trying to brag. I’m not even really that good; I just want you guys to know that these routines and techniques do hold water and have some merit. Besides I like to believe that the gurus or Mpuas get a lot more ass than I do…

If you haven’t read a magazine lately, or been listening to radio personalities, and you don’t feel like talking about how EXCITED you were doing your homework when for the first time you got to apply ALL THREE newly learned rules to find the derivative of a logarithmic function (super easy; but still fun in an odd way) while your friends were out partying (school does have its downfalls), then this post should help you out.

Try not to judge me by some of the things written below, I play the game to have fun, enjoy my youth (24), and most importantly life in its entirety. Oh yeah and I really really like girls.

Well, here ya guys go, some of my first year’s best… They have all been field tested and each has been successfully used multiple times.

SONICS ORIGINALS:

Car Bluff Opener:
(Not big on openers but here’s one of the better ones I’ve come up with)

Pua: Hey, if someone leaves something in your car are you aloud to keep it?
HBs: depends blah
Pua: Well, what if it’s something you really want?
HBs: Depends, What is it?
Pua: Nevermind (then go from there, don’t tell em’, just change topics… “This one’s nosey!” Etc.)

Rich Girl: 
(A sort of linguistic trick that sets the frame of her admitting dating you as a possibility, fun one to play with… The first time I said it I got nervous for a second, and thought “did I really just ask that?” The girl said, “no, we’d split the bill” and it’s been with me ever since)

Pua: Are you rich?
HB: something (I’ve never had a girl say yes.)
Pua: So, how do expect to buy me a drink?
HB: Something
Pua: So, if we were dating you’d expect me to pay for everything?
HB: no dutch, or yes, I’m old fashion, or something else you can play with, bust on, or IOI for

Boyfriend Avoider:
(Use playfully, a subtle IOI. Sets frame you don’t care if she has a boyfriend, your better than him even if she does, and she can’t tell you if she does anyway… plus if she doesn’t have one, she gets to feel she saved face. Everybody wins)

Pua: Ok, I’m going to ask you a question… … but I don’t want you to answer it… Don’t ever tell me, ok?
HB: Ok
Pua: Do you have a boyfriend?…
HB: light laughs
Pua: Good, now you can’t say I never asked.

(#-Closed at least 2 girls with boyfriends later on in the interaction after this schpeal. One with a boyfriend of 4 years, the other had one for 6. Their friends told me when I was telling them I liked their friend. They helped me anyway, like good friends would.)

World Greats:
(dem smarterer gurls wike dis won. (< — that’s silly, I know) Girls that are interested and interesting will talk about this one with you, she gets to play along (if you can apply understanding to the routine), also good for late night party sets where everybody is kinda drunk just sitting around, you get to play teacher, guys like it too and girls like the guy that guys like, so… here. : )

Pua: Ok so I’ve been reading biographies lately about Einstein, Leonardo Da Vinci, Ghandi, even Mohammed Ali and I think I’ve noticed a loose process that they all seem to follow to achieve greatness. Well, here I’ll take you through it… pick an object, or a thing, living, or whatever…
HB: (says something, I’ll use a tree for this but whatever she says use that… it’s easy) a tree
Pua: Ok, now let’s make an observation about a tree. Tell me something about a tree
HB: They’re green
Pua: They’re not always green…
HB: Well yeah, they’re leaves change color in the fall
Pua: Exactly, that’s the first step to greatness. So trees aren’t always green, once a year they change color and their leaves fall off etc. that my dear is what’s known as knowledge. So what do you think happens after you make as many observations as you can about a tree, study all you can about a certain tree and gain a heap of knowledge? What do you think the next step towards greatness is called?
HB: something (if it sounds good add it into the next part)
Pua: After you attain all that knowledge then you become an expert. Well what’s the next step after expert?
HB: something (You’re having a clearly controlled convo! So remember to play with her answers for a sec)
Pua: I think they become Masters, in school terms these are your PHD kids… people that add to the already existing knowledge. Now after they master one thing, then the best master more things; either in the same field or they master multiple other things and become sort of like a scholar. This is when they become known as the Greats… Now, this is my favorite part *do a little dance and smile* Do you know what the greatest of the greats become, the true inspirations of the world that change our everyday life, the Greats that live beyond their days?
HB: something (let her ponder this for a second)
Pua: close, but this is when a truly great mind becomes … … a Legend.

(This is actually an altered convo my dad and I had a while back, switched it up and made it a routine, I really call it Legends, didn’t want to ruin the end for you.)

Love Lust:
(gets girls thinking about Love, Lust, and of course sex)

Pua: What is love like to you?
HB: Something
Pua: Love to me is like when your with that special someone and they’re like your best friend, like your driving through a tunnel at 100mph * motioning with hands like driving through a tunnel *and everything around you is a blur except for that one person, like that one other person is the only one in your world that matters.
HB: something and agrees
Pua: Have you ever felt lust? Or have you ever just really liked messing around with someone you weren’t in love with? What was that like to you?
HB: something
Pua: To me it’s like when your body heats up and you get this knot in your stomach that’s driving you crazy, and only like, the naughtiest activities can relieve it, like you’d be willing to drive 45 minutes at 1 AM just to relieve that tension… just, to explode… woa, ok ok I know Lust is bad; but SEX is soooooo gooooood!
HB: laughs Yeah it is

(When you’re running this actually be in love and when you’re talking about Love and act it out, get hot and horny when you’re talking about Lust. Don’t go overboard with this, be calibrating by her answers and give her just a little more than she gives you, the point of this, to me, is to give sex the perception of being fun and healthy, which it is.)

Shorter version: get in convo about Love then get in convo about Lust and then “I know lust is bad; but sex is soooo gooood!”

Two girls at one party:
(Jerk routine, use with caution good for girls with a party lifestyle, IF she laughs, you’re in. If she doesn’t, it’s not over, prolonged progress sure; but girls love drama : )

(Don’t say you’re a jerk then follow up with this story… just transition into it)

Pua: I was at one of my friends 21st birthday parties and she had all her friends over it was nuts… There was an ice louge, jungle juice, free shots, food galore… It was a Hawaiian themed party; she has a palm tree tattooed on her ass so it was appropriate. Well obviously I got pretty drunk that night and ended up hooking up with one of my friend’s friends; after we got done she mentioned breakfast for the next morning… We’ll see… When I’m not sure if I wanna do something I always say we’ll see… Well she ended up passing out and I wasn’t tired, so I went out for more partying! Then this other girl there pulled me into a bathroom down in the basement and basically left me with no choice, so I hooked up with her too!! She said the same crap about breakfast the next morning… her and I then took turns going back upstairs; split up and acted like nothing happened and partied some more. Finally, after all that drinking, I fell asleep on a floor alone next to a piano and when I woke up the second girl was spooning me!! Now, I knew these two girls were good friends, so I thought about going and sitting at the breakfast table with both of them and thought, no way! So, instead I took both their cell phones and put em’ in a kitchen drawer with a note that said “I kick ass!” with a hyphen and my first initial… Then I snuck out to breakfast and ate with my guy friends.

See Her Often Number Close Technique:
(Maintains prizability and sets you up perfectly to get “the girl you see and interact with often’s” number ex. Smoke break girl, colleague, girl in study hall… make sure you like the girl before you get her number this can mess things up socially)

(Say at the end of yet another interaction with this girl, hopefully sooner than later)

Pua: So, when are you going to ask for my number?
HB: something not negative (say this to girls you know like you, or to girls that you would like to like you : )
Pua: *hand her a pen and something to write on*

(I prefer numbers on paper, it feels more solid to me; but to each his own.)

Solidify a number close technique:
(Having “cute” fun after the number close)

On the back of the piece of paper, napkin, match book behind the matches whatever, or where ever there is room, I’ll play a quick game of tic- tac-toe and set it up as a challenge to see if she can beat me… ladies first… have fun with the results…

Side note: instead of having them draw a picture of themselves, I have them draw a symbol or picture of something that will remind me of them next to their number… they almost always draw their stalk doodle

Kiss Close Technique 1: 
(You know those drunk girls at a nightclub you don’t know that totally eye fu*k you while you’re walking towards each other… This is what I used to say before I kissed them. Now, if I decide to, I just get in their way and kiss em’ and avoid the possible shit test all together, which I think is better; but if you have to talk, try this.)

Pua: You soo wanna kiss me.
HB: something/ possible shit test you happen not to hear *while holding eye contact*
Pua: (said slower, hard to describe, I call it moment game) If you don’t wanna kiss me, stop looking at me in my eyes. *eyebrow raise smile and vacuum*
HB: *holds eye contact with smile* or *looks away then back at your eyes*
Pua: *Kisses the interested drunk bar girl*

Kiss Close Technique 2:
(This can be used just about anywhere; but it’s perfect for those day 2 moments when you two get back in your car after you just did whatever and you feel it in your gut that you should be kissing her… she knows it too, you know the moment. )

Pua: You’re about 75% sure you wanna kiss me right now…
HB: laughs (they always laugh)
Pua: Oh man, Now you’re 80% sure!
HB: laughs (the first time I said this, at this point the girl said that I was a 100% sure that I wanted to kiss her, doesn’t matter what she says stick to this)
Pua: OMG! Now you’re 95% sure! *leans in and kisses girl*or *falls off couch from spooning position with girl then kiss* or *awkwardly maneuvers over to the girl in shotgun and kisses her*

Lovely sex:
(this is kinda f-d up; only said this twice with about 5+ drinks down… worked both times)

(After the no pants in bed, after all the we shouldn’t be doing this, after the this is crazy talk, during a mini-freeze out (you just got to her first or second threshold and you lay on your back again totally cool and saying nothing) you bring up a short seduction thread)

Pua: You seem so familiar, your smell, your hair, your skin. Ahh!… (said lovingly excited) Tell me about your first love
HB: thinks about first love says something
Pua: I could totally fall in love with you in 10 seconds
HB: laughs
Pua: *has wonderful lovely sex*
(I’m pretty sure that at least the first one was thinking about her ex until we started going at it… kinda f-d up, I know; but who am I to judge?)

(p.s. I meant it both times, the girls did seem familiar; Even though I said this playfully, when I’m drunk I really can fall in love with an almost entirely naked hottie that’s laying next to me on my bed while I have a raging boner : )

Grocery Store Love:
(Tension loop. Use tension loops. Say this after you’ve had sex with the girl, not right after, well I guess that would work too… it’s good for the phones)

Pua: I fell in Love at the grocery store today (tension)
HB: With… what….. the cereal? (Followed by insecure laugh) or something
Pua: Well, I was walking through the store, minding my own doing my shopping, and I saw this piece of meat… I thought, too good to be true. So, then I approached, and dumbfounded by the sheer beauty I reached out and POKED, to see if what I saw was real… Sure enough… the porter house steaks were on sale for $4.97 a pound! (tension released) So of course I got some and when I got home I realized those bastard butchers cut off the filets!!
HB: Laughs

Last Girl:
(This is a spinoff)

(This story is perfect for the first phone call after you met a girl at a bar, talk with her for awhile first then launch into this. It’s a spinoff of some PUA guys routine; but I can’t remember his name? (I bought his “original-routine book” off ebay… it was 95% stuff I’d read elsewhere with some thesaurus usage!! I’m sure he’s a good PUA; but waste of money! However it did inspire this… I altered his and IMO made it better, I tweaked it and added to it to get the girl to qualify to you at the end))

Pua: Oh man, I don’t know about you girls I meet at bars… Well, the last girl I met at a bar, we ended up hooking up and seeing each other for awhile. One night she called me at 1:30 in the morning telling me she was all wasted at Tonic (just switch this to a night club in your area). She didn’t know where her friends were, she could barely walk, and she NEEDED me to go pick her up. In other words she was beyond wasted. So I got in my car and headed out there and when I got there, I went up to the entrance skipped past all the people still trying to get in, and I never go to Tonic so I didn’t know the bouncers and they wouldn’t let me in… I told em’ what was going on, about how my girl was in there drunk and she needed a ride home… No go… the bouncers wouldn’t budge. While the bouncer was checking the next ID, I stormed into the club ran past the money counter and started shoving my way through the people, she told me she was in the back sitting on a chair… so that’s where I was heading… While I was running I looked back and the huge silver back gorilla bouncer guy from the front and his huge angry bouncer buddy were chasing after me… I started pushing through faster… Luckily, I got to my girl right before they got to me and I calmly yelled “This is the girl I was telling you about and she’s 19 and she’s been drinking in your club! If you know what I mean.” At this point there were four bouncers surrounding me… Then something crazy happened… The same guys that were about to get all geeked up beating me with their flashlights out back were now helping me get her out! They were pushing for me! I had her arm draped over me and we waltzed right out of there. I got her to the parking lot and she muttered that she was sorry, and that it wouldn’t happen again blah blah… Trust me I like to drink as much as the next guy but seriously… Bar girls, I don’t know.

Here it is but shorter and you can make it your own: Drunk girl calls in need of help, you go to club, no way you can get in, run in behind bouncer, get to girl before bouncers get you, bouncers then help you out, you’re a hero, bar girls…I don’t know

Pat/Grab/Smack her Ass: 
Always be grabbing ass or patting ass or smacking ass (treat them as the way you want them to act! In this case playful and horny). Just DO IT… BT goes up right before your eyes. If you’re on a day 2 and you’re not sure where you stand, pat her on the ass and find out. She’ll be happy you did.

Make playful excuses to touch her butt:

Pua: Where‘s my cell phone? You totally stole it! *grab/pat her ass*
Pua: nope that’s your butt… where is it? Oh here it is… (in your pocket)

Grab Ass Game:
(I got this from a friend of mine. I’m sure he didn’t start it… but it’s a fun game that gets you and your wing laughing… Take turns, my wing and I do this pretty much everywhere.)

Every time a girl is walking by you two while you’re walking, take turns or go tandem at getting in cheap feels on the passing ass. This is too funny. Most of the girls have a good heart about this and laugh and smile, you can say things “I love you” and they’ll laugh and yell it back; but make sure you’re ready for the mad girl; she’ll get in your face. She just wants to hear a playful direct game apology. Ex. I’m sorry; but if I didn’t pat your tush I wouldn’t have gone home happy today. I love you My bad… *keep walking and be on your way to the next ass*

There, it’s done, finally. It took me about five days to throw this post together with all the juggling I have to do… Remember if you’re running a routine that’s more like a story, it should come out different every time, and always be noticing where she’s at. A routine isn’t everything and be willing to drop it, even if it’s money. When you’re telling a story or routine, say it like you want to hear it for yourself as much as you want the girl or set to hear it. Most importantly get out there, have fun, and enjoy yourself.

-Sonics

PS – Credit goes to where I reblogged this from:  Tricks Revealed: Exploring our Amazing World

Cheers!

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Constant Kino and A Short Cut Through Kino Escalation

So much to add to my blog and so little time.  I gotta give people some breath, however I feel that my blog now is evolving based on my students’ needs and that’s cool by me.  But you don’t give a shit about all that 😉  On to the good stuff.

Another Article by Sonics – This time:

Subject: Constant Kino
Date: January 25th, 2008 02:36:44 PM (EST)

Author: sonics

Themesong:

(I got a question about Constant Kino on another forum, I started answering it and this is what came out… thought I’d post it for your guy’s eyes too.)

First off, Constant Kino isn’t really anything new… I just named it because it’s something I’ve noticed myself doing and I thought with a name it’d be easier for people to understand and able to help them more. I’m sure many of you readers have been doing this naturally forever; but this is for the guys who that haven’t been.

This isn’t like Mehow’s Pure Kino, which is like doing the trust test or a palm reading (I don’t read palms; but palm reading is an example of a Pure Kino Routine), Constant Kino is your legs touching each other’s while doing the palm read and remains constant after the palm read is over.

The actual constant thing doesn’t start until you actually know the girl a little… really, a half hour after knowing someone doesn’t mean you KNOW them know them; but that’s about how long it takes to get to this point, in most cases… you meet a girl get to know her then all of a sudden you guys are always touching…

It is by all means perfect for alone time, alone meaning just you and her. Day 2 stuff, special case bar girls : ), or maybe there just isn’t any room for anything but for Constant Kino to take place, like you met a girl while you were seated at a party on a packed couch.

It’s all in the name; you are constantly touching her, think of it as always having some kind of kino going on. Not you just keep touching her here and there throughout the interaction. You are always, constantly, touching her and she is always touching you as well by default, many times it will be the girl initiating it.

Think of subtle long lasting kino as the bottom line of this.

Say you’re watching a movie in the theatres (which still works as a completely acceptable day 2) and you guys are sharing an armrest with your elbows and forearms against one an others, or maybe your knees are touching.

That’s weak and basic but still what I mean by Constant Kino. I just wrote that example as a final way for you to have an idea of what it is you’re reading about.

I think of PDA as a public display. Constant Kino, while having many of the same “moves,” isn’t really for others to see. While PDA is Constant Kino, Constant Kino is also a term that explains what the lasting kino is when no one else is there to see. PDA should never stop, the people just need to leave : )

Like when you’re at one of your houses on the couch and she throws her feet on your lap or say you guys are cuddling. Like in my HBBcup LR, where our legs were touching while I was standing at the table, no one else could see, it wasn’t even a big deal, it was just happening, purposely.

Once you have Constant Kino going, and if the situation allows it PDA, sex is inevitable. The comfort and familiarity with touching each other has been going on since you first started hanging out, it’s then only natural to full close. You don’t need it; but when I’m running solid game Constant Kino is always there.

If you think about the word “Constant” you’ll remember to be doing it. Now you can sometimes draw attention to it; but for the most part it’s something neither of you two should be thinking about… which is kind of a contradiction since I told you to remember the term; just don’t make a big deal out of it happening while you’re making it happen.

This will sound a little AFC to the new guys; but think of you and the girl temporarily sharing your world, kino and all; that’s where you want to be. Get her here and it’s crazy what chicks will do.

OBVIOUSLY, you shouldn’t and can’t always be touching the girl. Leave the girl every once and awhile with her friends or your friends, then when you come back go Constant Kino again. Keep it subtle and discrete, not always PDA. The only person that really needs to know about the kino is the girl herself. That goes for all kino really. You don’t have to or even really want to be claiming the girl in front of others, unless you can tell that that’s what she wants. (Anybody with a decent level of female facial calibration will be able to tell if you’re claiming her to show the guy talking to her, (if her eyes stay locked on you while a guy is claiming her, she’s telling you to keep going) this just makes me lose respect for the guys. I used to be that guy)

Constant Kino is a shared thing, if the girl isn’t receptive yet, wash rinse and repeat later. That I suppose is where the escalation in this comes into play. Say you’re on a day 2 at the mall and you go for the hand hold, she’s not feelin’ it, you drop her hand. You do it again, she’s still not really feelin’ it, and you drop it again. A little later, for a third time you’re walking slightly in front of her, you go for it and she holds onto two and a half of your fingers like she’s been your chick for the last year. (Take her someplace secluded and go Constant Kino with your body parts (legs, arms, feet, back of hands, palms, etc.)… and escalate.)

It’s all the places you would normally touch; you’re just doing it constantly letting the kino continue.

Try this once you get the Constant Kino going: after you’ve been touching each other for a few hours break it off for no reason and watch her come back in or ask you “what’s wrong?”

Remember kino is a reward. If she’s bothering you in anyway, no kino!! Be playful with it, while making it something you just do.

Like I wrote at the top of this post, I’m sure a lot of you guys are doing this already, now, if you weren’t already, you can consciously add to your already existing skills in this area. This was more for the people that weren’t doing it already… Keep it constant guys… it’ll help.

Ways I’ve initiated the Constant Kino:

1) tickle attacks to snuggle kino

2) “Let’s see if you fit”

3) random hand placement (if you’re in her car just reach over and put your hand on her leg)

4) Grab her hands and put them on you

5) move her body parts (leg on top of your leg when side by side)

6) all sorts of close close proximity types

7) just the tips of your shoes

8 ) hand on her lower back

9) start it on the dance floor!!

10) Hugs with a spin into proximity shoulders touching

Thanks for reading.

If you have any relevant questions… fire away

-Sonics

Sidecar:

Subject: “Lets see if you fit…” *A shortcut through Kino Escalation*
Date: July 13th, 2007 07:32:34 PM (EDT)

Author: sonics

A Sonics original (to the best of my knowledge at least) … enjoy

*A short cut through Kino escalation*

This will help you get to that point of pushing the interaction towards a make out, or a ONS, or potential girlfriend, or FB, whatever… here it is, fun and easy:

“Let’s see if you fit”

Use this after you both like each other. Could be instant or it could be after awhile, no interaction is the same, it could be after you isolate, a lot of the time, for me, it’s after very little Kino has been exchanged or before any Kino has been established at all, you both wanna touch each other, this just helps that happen…

You’re sitting next to her and you make space for her to scoot in under your arm to do a sit up cuddle and say “let’s see if you fit” then you guys do a sit up cuddle.

Or

Simply stand next to her and say “Let’s see if you fit” with an arm out as if you’re inviting her to come in. Have her step in under your arm with your arm on her lower back…

Or

Hold out your hand and say “let’s see if it fits” and hold her hand, fingers interlocked below the waist in a “we’ve been dating” kind of way.

This has been field tested by me for the last month and a half and the girl will ALWAYS come in to see if she fits! So far for me anyway, and that’s a lot of different girls auditioning for the fit. Remember this is after attraction, the majority of the time it’s after all those IOI’s, after those shared stories, after you’ve felt each other out and feel comfortable with each other, most importantly when it feels right. I’ve yet to F this up; but probably will one day who knows. It’s worked for the guys I’ve told already too, so, if you want, I’m sure it will work for you too.

Make sure to act as if it’s no big deal, and just continue being yourself and doing the same thing you were doing before the Kino.

This is just one way and probably the best LINE so far I’ve found to initiate Constant Kino, which is huge in my game. I know it’s a line; but once you get here a couple times you’ll be able to think of a thousand different ways to get Constant/Comfort Kino.

This is perfect for the time spent together at the bar after a number close, or walking down the street to a new venue, and standard in isolation.

This is not the time to say no you don’t fit and throw her away, unless of course you still feel like playing and aren’t ready to take that step… cough <wuss> cough This is the beginning of your new playfully enjoyable and shared world. Think “couple Kino.”

Happy Flower Picking,

-Sonics

Sidecar II:  

I chose The Stooges because last night I was writing this at a bar in Chicago where I decided to go, and finish up work and at least give myself an opportunity to open sets while I was working.   Sooo.  Once I finished doling out homework, answering emails and posting this, this song came on so I made it the themesong.  PS – I like Iggy Pop and the Stooges anyway.

Did you know he actually helped fund and pay for the air conditioner for a place called Sweat Records in Miami, which is a Record Store that doubles as a coffeeshop?