Lay Report: Blissfully Key Westy – Or I could name it Key West Fuck Parade to sound cool…


I’m posting these reports for the benefit of my students and other guys who I have directed here so they can learn pickup from Real Life experiences instead of endless theory.  Also, if you read the Seduction Chronicles you will notice that was one of the main intentions of this blog, to actually recycle some of the writings I’ve done online for various Forums or whatever.

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This story took place in 2009 back when I was in Key West on a journey to find my life.

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November 24th, 2009, 7:56 pm

Well if you read my last LR you know that I almost immediately hooked up with a tourist. Now it’s going on a month and about 10 days. I stopped sarging actively for the MOST part – even up till now I haven’t really actively sarged. There were a few times but not so many. I was running low on cash and needed my own place ASAP. I was lucky enough to find a guy who decided he’d work something out with me so I could pay in chunks for the first month.

So I got a job and started working and still I am in the hole. So work is priority. Cool! But I get 1 day off a week and work ends at 10pm and starts at 2pm. So I can do a little before and after BUT still, I don’t quite get into the “Go to the bar and NOT drink.” vibe. If I go out, I drink! That’s the fucking point of being in a bar.

I love the taste of alcohol, beer and wine and I love buzzes. I despise hangovers but oh well. You gotta pay to play. My point is I’m not going out as much because I’m trying to SAVE. And yet, I am not in a hurry at all!

Here’s why.

After the tourist I had a nice little romp with a gal I met in the spinach/lettuice section of Winn-Dixie, which is a Grocery Store chain down here. I open and vibed and timebridged her but it was about 3 weeks ago so I can’t remember the specifics. I was busy looking for work and a place to stay so the FR moved to the back seat.

The only thing is that she has also seemingly moved to the slow track. She seems to work alot and she is HOT. I mean HOT. She is definately in the top 3 chicks I have had naked and sucked all over her body. I didn’t full close. I keep being Mr Nice guy when it comes to LMR and keep fooling myself into believeing that I will make her want it more if I don’t fuck her right away. Why? I’m trying to tweak the idea of making them want to see me again. Whatever, I’ll figure it out. This is a new thing for me. I was fucking chicks faster and now I’m trying to slow it down – there is some experiment my brain is running with all this – I know it, I’m just not exactly sure what that is right now. I’ll know soon enough. I think that it has something to do with David X saying that when he KNEW he could fuck a chick he would make her wait.

And I think that shit works WITH the right followup AFTER you let her go without fucking her. I think the experiment is, trying to figure out WHAT exactly (by trial and error) that followup is; WHICH is what I think I have discovered!! (read on)

But the key is I met her at Winn Dixie. The set was fun. I exchanged numbers and during our talking I discovered she liked unfiltered sake. Well fuck me too so do I and for real. So we set up the day2.

On that set I drank. I can remember using some routines from the likes of Ross Jeffries, In10se, El Topo and a few of my own. The day2 ended with me leaving empty handed and going home alone EXCEPT for the fact that She paid for ALL my sake. I spent 0 dollars.

Meanwhile that was day2. Then I timebridged her that night. We decided to go out again a few nights later and so we did. We met up at Grand Vin.

The interestesting thing about this was the fact that this day3 sucked ass at the beginning. I was a little stressed because of my current limbo living situation and I met up with her. Although I had my game face on it was a tough night. This was a girl who had guys hitting on her when I was with her. The first guy was random nice guy chode AFC. He was a local from the island and struk up a conversation with her while I went to get a beer and go to the bathroom. I come back and he’s doing all the “Where do you work?” blah blah to her then starts playing the name game.

Fine. I kept trying to gain control of the conversation but my brain was not the usual chatterhouse of topics for the evening SO this guy kept regaining her attention. Finally I literally stood up from where I was sitting while talking about leaving and body-blocked him out of set. He got the hint and then sat back where he was before but that happened to be on the opposite side of me with my girl between us. He starts back in with the “Familiar” talk and soon I’m fighting for attention again and getting frustrated.

And then I hear him talking to her… and he slips in the SOI. The sexually suggestive comment. Fucker! He’s trying to snake my chick, but that was already obvious. Now it was just out in the open. So now I grab my drink and tell my chick, “Drink up… I’m tired of sitting here. I wanna walk.. It’s nice out.”

She relents but the vibe starts to get weird. We’re walking around and she’s walking ahead of me. There is obvious uncomfortableness going down. If this happens I usually stop walking and start going in different directions or whatever. I am not following the chick around. No way. I ended up turing down random streets and going all over the place because she kept walking ahead and doing shit that was uncomfortable and creating a shitty vibe. Maybe I was too but I was not about to be AFC and both follow and reward her bad behavior.

We run into this other guy she knows and Immediately the guy tries to AMOG me. He says, “Nice necklace.” and pokes my necklace.

And my inner self wants to smash him in his face. BUT then of course that would mean I lost my cool and blow the set. So I don’t. I keep my cool and thank him. We start chatting. He was out selling key-west coconuts which grow all over the place locally. You cut the top off and drink the coconut milk.

They went through the cursory “hello”s and I was polite enough to listen and just talk but not blow my frame. This guy was trying to be the alpha of the situation but I was throwing shit back. He decided to make me a coconut juice and hand it to me and then tell me, “Be careful and don’t spill it all over yourself.”

I replied, “Ya good idea. I don’t want to get my clothes all dirty like yours.” said very politely as I gestured to his clothing which was indeed dirty.

So he’s talking and soon he’s into what sounds to me VERY much like a comfort story; a fucking grounding sequence. Now I don’t think he’s a pua but he’s telling this girl i’m with an identity story. He’s at it a couple minutes and I’m listening thinking, “No way is this fucking guy going to run comfort on my chick in front of me!” (The thing is, I was just watching Tim’s Natural Method the day before where he talks about Chode Hope. I was thinking – “No – I AM doing Chode Hope right now! This will NOT STAND!”)

So he’s getting to a part of his story where he’s telling my chick, “You see… When I was growing up in my country…”

“You know what!?” I say really loud but evenly relaxed talking over him. I don’t wait for him to pause, “This is a pretty smart idea; selling these coconuts. I mean, you got your truck here filled with em. I know they grow free all over the island so there’s no overhead. You can go into people’s yards at night or whatever and pick their coconuts for free. I just had a lady yesterday almost beg me to come get them from the trees in her yard as long as I cleaned up after myself. Must be a pretty decent business. I bet you could even stay in your truck if you needed a cheap place to stay.”

I was saying this like it was the coolest thing in the world. I was acting truely interested while peppering him with DLV tags pretty quickly… and he just stood there not knowing what to say. There may have been more to my story but the deal was that I was making him out to be pretty much a homeless guy who lived in his truck and snuck into people’s yards in the middle of the night to steal their coconuts and sell them on the street.

Then after that I saw a cute chick a few feet away I had spoken with a couple of times on the island and I ejected the set leaving him and my chick HBIvy (from now on) to themselves. Of course a moment later HBIvy was saying “bye” to the guy and coming over to see who I was talking to…

We talked for a couple minutes and then I ejected and we started walking some more. The weird vibe was still there. I thought to myself, “Fuck This! It’s go time. This is either going to go to shit OR it’s gonna happen and it’s happening now.

So I brought light upon the situation. I called it out. I told her I knew the weird vibe was there between us and I’m not used to it. I said, “I’m a pretty laid back guy. I like to have fun. We had fun last time but this shit is weird. Let’s just call it a night.”

She told me she was hungry and wasn’t gonna go out tonight and tired and all this blah blah and she was sorry she was acting like this. Then we kept walking around talking about it for a couple minutes but it really wasn’t moving anything forward so finally I was just like, “Come here…”

Right in the middle of her complaining and griping I just stopped her and said it. She stopped and I pulled her in and kissed her. At first she was like… WTF? She kinda paused for a brief instant like she didn’t know what was going on and then I heard her say, “uh.. ok.” and the she started kissing me back.

Done deal. The vibe was immediately gone. We both relaxed instantly and started having fun. I said, “Look, I got alot of pressure too. I’m fucking couch surfing in the middle of a house where all they do is watch Family Guy, My Name is Earl and that fucking space show the Simpson’s guy made. To tell you the truth I would just LOVE to chill and watch a movie or listen to some kickass music somewhere; to chill, relax and have a drink.

She said, “we could go to my house…”


I seem to be getting good at this. Chicks here are always inviting themselves to do shit with me. LOL. Be Interesting.

So back to her house we went. We started drinking sake. Constant kino was on. IOM was on. She draped her legs over me and I put on Pandora with only 1 artist inputted into it to set the entire mood: Tricky. That’s all I needed.

Long story short we were all over each other. I had her pretty much completely naked and this chick is HOT. Her fucking body is amazing and her tits? Funny thing. This girl is the sweetest girl on earth. She’s totally polite and nice and friendly and has that southern belle thing going but she had these amazing Fake tits – FAKE. LOL. The last thing I would have thought this chick would have is fake titties but there they were in all their glory – beautiful fake boobs. Her body was toned and awesome.

I pretty much licked and but every part of it – but for some reason I got LMR. That’s fine. I had an amazing time making out with her and she did with me as well. No sex? Not yet. It’s going to happen. Trust. Many say that if you miss the opportunity and don’t break through LMR it’s not going to happen. Bullshit.

I have proven to myself several times that indeed it WILL happen. I just did it again. The key is that guys get too focused on closing the girl once they hit LMR and then they try to finish the job. The girl knows this and then ASD kicks in and they guy is shut out. So what do you do? You let her know it’s cool and that sex is no big deal.

Then she will fuck you later. Brad-P says Girls are not in a hurry to have sex with you. They can pretty much wait indefinitely. GUYS are in a hurry. Girls sense when guys are in a hurry and then they don’t want it anymore. So the key is – don’t be in a hurry.

That’s where freezeouts come in. But in other situations I really just like to go home, leave her wanting more and then solidify it. I used to do this alot. Then I tried hurrying the close lately after I almost got there and then I realised that THAT is why the chicks were losing interest. I was trying to CLOSE them. TRYING.

So here I have just relaxed. I was working one day and there was this sexy, hot, black chick whom I was serving. She was reading some book by the guy who wrote the Davinci Code. I started flirting but Not flirting. I wasn’t really gaming either but I sense we both knew what was going on. She turned out to be a vet. She also had a bulldog.

“We should both walk our dogs together. I love that there are so many dog-friendly places here. I’ll tell you what. Do you have facebook? Cool! If you want write your facebook down on something before you leave and I’ll be in touch.” That was that.

So HB Davinci finished her food and reading and I brought her a bill. When she left her facebook was on a napkin and for 2 days I didn’t look for it. As a matter of fact once I did she had already found me and sent me a friend request. I befriended her and left a comment to one of her updates.

Her comment was along the lines of, “Going out tonight!” or some such blah-blah. It was on her wall. She was not necessarily directing it towards me. Or was she…? I said, “Lucky you. I’ll be at work till 10.”

She replied, “I’ll stop by and say hi.”

And she did – at what time? 9:30. Dressed sexy. My S.A (Server Assistant). was like, “That’s a beautiful girl!” and then next thing you know I’m talking to her and he hears me say, “So come by at about 10 and we’ll go have a drink.”

“You know her?” he asked me all bewildered…

“Ya. She’s a friend of mine.” I replied.

“She’s beautiful!!” he repeated like he was in awe.

And so I happily finished my work shift and went outside to see if she should show up. And I waited. Another girl I work with came out and was hanging around and mentioned she was going to go have a drink at a place nearby. She was most definitely hinting. I was getting the vibe HBDavinci wasn’t coming.

I still do the 15 minute rule (Louis & Copeland) and it was like 11 minutes in… Shit!

First of all, though – let me explain the backdrop of my work situation so you can get a look into the daily experience that is Me being a Server at a french cafe so you can kinda get an idea why “chick I work with” came out hinting about going to have a drink.

I work with mostly girls. There are several very cute chicks there. There is one ethiopian, one french chick, a few eastern europeans and a couple sexy young americans that work the coffee/bakery part. The ethiopian likes me – apparently she was instrumental in getting me hired. She is definately cute as hell and pretty cool. She even rides a motorcycle. I’ll call her HBMezerat. She kisses me on the lips every day. She comes by and rubs me or brushes me or pokes me. We are very affectionate to each other. Keep in mind I work with these chicks, though, so when you say, “Well then how come you’re not fucking her yet?” my answer to you might be – well, because I work there and I will fuck her or I wont but I’m not going to blow out the set and risk weirdness at work. Just going out with this chick in public is great social proof especially when, like last night, the OTHER hot chick I work with comes along. HBFrancais is a sexy ass, well built french chick that speaks broken english. HOT. She has called me “Rrrrrrrr” a few times as if she purrs my name. She also Might like me.

We give each other eskimo kisses and shit like that but she is very naturally push-pull. She complained a couple days ago how I never called her. Then I said, “Ok we’ll go have a drink tomorrow. I promise.”

Then the next day she couldn’t but I played it perfectly. I developed the art of suggestion without ties. I will throw something out there as an open ended statement. “I’m going to have a drink after work.”

If she says, “That sounds like fun.” well then it’s on.


If she says, “I can’t tonight…” Then my response is usually something like, “No… Silly ass. I wasn’t inviting you. I already have someone who wants to hang out.”

Last night HBMezerat was trying to Coquette me complaining about a text I sent her that said “Jerk.” After she bitched about it she left to go across the street to a different bar. Trying to get me to chase. Seconds later HBFrancais noticed me sitting there NOT following them all across the street and came over to me, “You come with?”

I was like,”I dunno. I’m just chilling. I like this place.”

“Noooo. You come with.” She wasn’t demanding, she was trying to convince me with her broken english to come with them.

So I’m gaming, work style. It kinda just has to “sort of happen.” If I’m gonna fuck these chicks. HBMezerat is trying to get me to chase. I’m just kinda sitting back playing it cool. There are other girls there. I have had my ass pinched a couple times at random. I feel good at this place. I work nights alone (serving as the only server) mostly but whatever… It’s fun.

Another example: Two days ago HBMezerat came into the room where I was getting drinks or whatever. Let’s call it the kitchen. The kitchen is right next to the bake shop where the young but legally aged girl works who has a cute face BUT an amazingly tight body. So anyway, Mezerat kissed me full on the lips. The HBbakeshop said “Ooooohhhh. Nice one.” and then today I went in to check my schedule and I get hit by a wad of paper thrown by a smiling HBbakeshop… She’s flirting now. Ha! Social Proof.

On the same note but in a different way, I flirted with a chick way way back when I first got here who was working in a coffeeshop. I found out she was from My old stomping grounds – go figure. Flint, MI – Almost home of Juggler who says he’s from Flint but was really a Flushing kid. That’s a little – Alot Nicer than Flint. But he told me once his parents were the original owner’s of Mad Hatter. You’ll only know wtf I’m talking about if you too were a Flint Kid.

So The chick ended up being married to another Flint Kid. The thing is, I believe in Honor. So as cute as I think the Flint Chick is I will not try to go for her because I met the Flint guy and he’s cool people. So with that in mind now we are all friends. Cool shit. I have another Flint crew and it’s not even in Flint. AWESOME!! There’s something about a Flint crew. I can’t explain it. Some of my best memories ever were with my old Flint crew and at that time I was a hopeless AFC. Now I’m a cool guy. The girl is giving me shit all the time now. She said playfully last time we hung out, “You’re not getting any pussy tonight. You’re chilling with the crew.” and then goes into this story about how she sees me talking to this girl or that girl and how she feels bad because they’re always like, “WTF. There goes R—— again talking to some chick.” and how they’re already on their way to this place or that so they’re accidentally cbing me. Not really. Why?

Because then she went into another story about her cute roomate who would totally be awesome for a guy like me. “She’s just like you. She can fuck a guy and be like, “that was that!” and not get all attached.” You guys should really meet each other. And I met her today by chance as I went to get a coffee at the place where the Flint Chick works. So I did my proper timebridge on a warm set and soon enough… Wednesday night we are going to “Walk my Dog.” That’s my lazy man’s approach to a Timebridge. Sonics took a picture of my dog and sent it to me. It’s a BEAUTIFUL pic of my bulldog with his mouth open. It looks like he’s smiling. So I always show women the pic. Done deal. But I digress so without further ado;

Now back to our story: So the chick who came out to hint at a drink with me is an entirely different server and I almost bit too but seconds later here came HBDavinci. PS – No dog. I love how a timebridge works. The actual reason we’re hanging out is almost never the actual thing we do. Not that I don’t LOVE my dog. However, we did walk back to my house a few blocks away and get my dog. I really don’t want to keep calling my dog “my dog” but his name is totally recognisable so I have to think up an Alias; a wing name if you will. I got it… Toby!

So we went and got Toby – it’s kinda the David DeAngelo bit about going in and leaving again. That’s what we did. On the walk to G—-V– I was kinoing her around her back and moving a little to not make the kino stale. I think I’ve heard some guys shit all over the concept of putting your hand on the small of the back, “Creepy small of the back guy!” or whatever. However just like alot of this shit it’s not the What but the HOW.

I learned from a Lesbian Friend of mine, HBSmokey, that women love it when you Massage the small of the back. They have alot of tension there. That’s where the small of the back thing came from. It’s just that guys don’t really know that for the most part so they just stand there all douchy like with their hand hovering on the small of her back looking like a retard. However, I usually do 2 places. The back of their neck or the small of their back and I am kneading with my fingers. Lightly on the neck and a little more forceful on the small. They like it alot. So if you wanna put your arm around her and put your hand on the small of her back, make it useful and you’ll set yourself apart from the rest of the chodes out there. Even routine it. “Women have alot of tension in the small of your backs. How’s this feel…? Alright but that’s all you get.”

Soon – Bam, her arm was around my back in return before we even got to our first day2 venue. Once we got there it was chit-chat and a couple light routines maybe and soon I just went for the kiss. Done deal. I don’t really even say much anymore. I just know when it’s time to kiss for the BEST effect. I’m not talking Club Makeout; I’m talking about kissing them when it’s seductive and escalates the interaction sexually. Like the sexual door opens and I step through at the right time. You learn this by skipping all the Kiss Routines and just feeling it in your gut. Instinct. When you’re with a girl you will FEEL it. Things will be progressing and your body will tell you, “Kiss her now.” You do. It doesn’t matter where you’re at or when it happens. She’s feeling it too so fuck it, just go for it. You may even fail. She may turn away. But it’s there and EVEN in many cases where a chick denied me at first it REALLY set the tone and I ended up fucking her anyway.

In the other extreme when I was afraid to go for it when my body said GO the interaction would stale, especially if I said, “Well I’ll just wait till the right time.” The right time is when you’re body says GO because according to the book, “The One Hour Orgasm.” when you are feeling something like that it is BECAUSE she is feeling it too. Like you are sending primal messages to each other on an instinctive level.

You can get an idea by watching videos like the ones at Sounds stupid but they really do put on a good act of capturing the IOM for kissing. PS – Don’t get all hot and masturbate to it – it’s for EDUCATION. Save it for the field.

Plus the seduction location Grand Vin is a GREAT place. Not too busy, not too not busy. It’s a quaint old house with a nice sized 2 tier patio outside and usually there is a cool live band playing on one corner of the upper tier of the patio. Lot’s of wine, good selection of beer and I’m socially proofed with the staff already. The gal that works there likes to give me a big hug and we usually kiss each other full on the lips when I go there to chill. Perfect mood-setting location if you are EVER in Key West. (PS – if you are look me up! This is a virtual PUA playground.)

Grand Vin Wine Bar – Key West, FL

So we’re sitting, listening to music. She’s drinking wine and me beer. I think back at my house I started doing Brad-P smart Girl tests to her. Anytime there was a moment where I couldn’t think of something to keep the interaction flowing I would fall back on the Smart-Girl tests and ask some random question. “What’s the capital of Bolivia?” Then I would give her ratings. “Right now you’re about 60% I dunno. I mean you’re pretty good; a D if you were in school. That’s passing.”

Then I switched them up.. The questions over time became a little more… Louis and Copeland/Ross Jeffries. What’s your favorite thing about kissing? She said, “Hmmm. I’d have to think about that one.” Paydirt. now she’s thinking so while she was I switched the question.

“Ya. Ok. If you could think about the most amazing kiss you’ve ever had, how would you describe it?” Then she answered me and I picked out the trance words and fed it back followed by the ever popular, “…Now… With me, It’s something that’s really different and amazing.”

Grand Vin – Inside at the bar – don’t worry – none of these girls are people I know… 😉

Something like that.

Then eventually we were on to something else and I think I just upped the kino (back of the neck, brush her cheek, quick peck on the cheek, quick peck on the back of the neck, more brushing cheek-back of neck and then…. In! Maybe that seems like alot but really if you’re doing this constant kino style from the beginning (yes you kinda have to escalate to this point) then it should almost be natural. In other words, it’s no big deal because you’re incorporating it into the entire set While you’re doing your other stuff.)

Good kisser too! PDA is a great sign for me on a day-2. It always means it’s going further. This is a FAR different vibe than cheesy club make out where the chick never talks to you again. Eventually we finished our drinks, grabbed some more hootch (there’s a liquor store RIGHT across the street from me as well as a 2 bars – all the fixins.) and back to my house.

I hooked up my laptop to my stereo, sat in this plastic lawn chair that is currently the only seating in my front room, and plugged it in. I picked out a mix by Roger Sanches. I looked at her standing next to me and asked, “You ever listen to Roger Sanches?” and then we started making out. I thought that was awesome as a kiss close! next thing you know she was in my lap and soon enough she was naked. I noticed something though – Pad…

No. Not Pad-Thai. Pad-Time of the Month.

Oh well. We madeout for a LOOOONG time and I got almost full access. Meanwhile I was seeding anti-asd kinda stuff because I knew I was not fucking a girl I just met in the Red-Zone. If you’re like WTF? Ask Sonics to write a post if he hasn’t already.

So no… Ha! I didn’t fuck her that night. We talked about it later; Sonics and I; and he reminded me of a theory I have heard several times from “Guru’s” throughout the community, “If you don’t !close a chick after you’re in Seduction she will Backwards Rationalize that she didn’t want to have sex with you and you’re done for.”

In other words – if you don’t fuck her the first night (assuming you’ve gone sexual), you wont fuck her. But BEFORE I knew that rule it was common practice for me to do just that. I would go really sexual with a chick and then not necessarily fuck her. Then she would come back later and I’d finish the deal. It has happened not just a couple time, but several times.

Yes there are times I have gotten to third base with a chick and then that’s all, but I’m not complaining. Lol… Here’s a little secret about what makes me tick. It’s NOT so much the Fucking her, it’s the UNDRESSING her. Meeting a chick, talking to her and then going through the steps to have her naked in front of me, while many times I still haven’t even taken my shirt off yet is So fucking sexy to me. Sure I follow suit soon enough but it’s just the point. Here’s some chick who was eating a Panini in my restaurant one minute and the next she has no clothes on and I was the one who removed them with her complete participation!

(insert 3rd bass youtube video – the cactus)

I mean, think about that. That’s AWESOME! This chick’s body too…!? She admitted to doing yoga, but she was of Haitian descent. What’s that mean. Her upper body was TIGHT. Like solid. Her tits were not too big/not too small and fit perfectly for her tones stomach and shoulders BUT – Then she had this amazing Black-Girl ass! WOOHOO!!! I really couldn’t keep my hands off it. Jesus! So here I am all excited as shit but I have to see her again.

So what do I do…? I’ve tried everything by now. Guess what works the best?

Nothing. (Or at least a huge “I don’t give a shit” vibe.)

That’s the gist of it. When I send them a text the next day saying I had fun, or Good times or really ANYTHING like that it’s OVER! So I thought back and realized…. The ones I fucked after were the ones I really didn’t chase after they left without fucking me. So in her case I DIDN’T contact her at all the next day.

Soon enough she sent me a text literally telling me how she regretted LEAVING my house that night. I had, at my home, successfully seeded AND timebridged to see her again wednesday of the following week. My texts were simple and to the point. “Good things come to those who wait.” And “Wednesday night…”

That was it.

She sent me back, “Wednesday night! ”

And wednesday night she came over, we fucked, done deal. The sexual STATE was already there. I didn’t really have to do shit. IOM was still going when she came over. It was (pardon my cliche) so think in the air you could cut it with a knife.

So now, I have a very flirty vibe at work, I have a day4 tonight with an FB, I have a day2 tomorrow with a cute chick that my Flint Crew hooked me up with. And ALSO I have sporadic slow track follow-ups with a couple chicks who I threw into the mix. HBIvy is one of them and there are a few more minor seductions involved that really haven’t progressed enough to write about. Mostly they are on slow track game.

There is something I thought about last night. I am, if I am going to give myself a rating, a Green-PUA; a Green-charm. To me, this is how it should be for someone to have hit that point of BASIC Pua-ness. I am No Longer an AFC or even an rAFC (which, I believe that MOST people who call themselves PUA really are.) but I have stepped it up. Women are starting to be abundant in my life and really, I’m not even trying really hard. I maybe go out a couple times a week (OUT-out) and the rest is just picking up naturally without really going out of my way to do it. I’m sure if I wasn’t lazy about pick-up I could already be AMAZING but… Well… I am a simple man. I’m not trying to be the best in the world. I’m not trying to be the Champion of PUAs to impress other guys. I just love the company of women. I don’t wanna go out and do 18 sets a night. I want women to be magnetically drawn to me. I think it’s starting to happen.

When I save money again I will be doing a workshop to see what good Really Is. I keep hearing that term thrown around lately in my PUA studies. “Most guys think they’re good until they see what Good really is.”

I will see, I will find out, I will emulate and I will throw in my own, “Kick it up a notch!” like Emeril and THEN… Then I’ll know what “Good” really is.

PS – If you are reading this and like what I wrote – Get your ass to Key West for a minute. This is a place to come to run some game.

Fourty, Fit and Phenomenally Sexy


From a private forums « on: October 31, 2011, 10:28 PM »

I’ve been blah blah blahing away about lesbian seduction texting lately. And I promise you all I was going to try and save all my texts.

2 things happen when I try this method (mostly reserved for girls I am not getting enough positive response from quickly enough through text or phone.)

1.  She will break open and start texting me like she doesn’t care anymore about how you perceive her.  She will start talking and telling me how much she likes the way I express myself.  I can escalate quickly as hell.  How quickly?  We’ll talk about it below.


2.  She will get creeped out or feel pressure to tell you she isn’t interested.  This will happen pretty quickly in most cases so now you can scrap the number and move on.  I like Risk Creepy and I LOVE reframing.  Girls that don’t respond well give me the chance to practice these things.

I just had a day2 yesterday.  This is what happened.  She texted me early on.

“You up?”

ME:  “Ya…”

Me:  “Thinking about going to get coffee…”

Her:  “Wait for me!”

and then I texted her my address.  She came over, we went and had coffee for a few minutes at Kickstand coffee.  We bantered a little.  The vibe was already there.  I was Lovable Sex Addict.  It was probably noon and I was at the coffeebar grabbing her fake boob and she was smiling and mock protesting at the same time, but it’s because I had kept blaming her.

As soon as I saw her dressed in her black hoodie with it unzipped to reveal fucking sexy cleavage with mouth watering lingerie cupping her breasts (no not completely out there…  I knew because I made great show of looking down at her boobs and commenting.) I was hard as a rock.

I can get away with this because we were already so dirty and sexy in text that it was just me being congruent.  It would have been weird if I wasn’t doing this.

However, it also worked because of Shock and Awe.  One of the first things I did when I saw her was zip up her zipper.  “That’s better…  I can’t be staring at your boobs the whole time…”

And, of course she unzipped it back down.  The dynamic works if you do it right.  I want her to feel sexual.  I want her to feel desired.  I want her to know she is seducing me and that I am fighting it.  It makes her want to do it more.  We talked about our tentatively scheduled day2.  We didn’t really have a day2 planned.  I just amped and amped and amped and made little light suggestions until she just had to come meet me.

We were actually supposed to go out tonight, not yesterday.

So after coffee we went to Whole Foods to drink a bottle of wine…  But not before we went back to my house, I sat on my chair, pulled her onto my lap, started making out with her.  I was purposely playing “Lesbian Porn Scene” in my mind.  In the scenes I’m referring to girls are always so polite about seducing other women.  They always ask, “Can I see your boobs?”  “Can I kiss it?”  “Do you mind if I…..?”

So I was doing this, exactly like this.  “Do you mind if I take your boob out?”  “Which one first?”  “Can I kiss it?”

I don’t know if any of this was necessary.  It was just for me.

Soon the bra was coming off and I stood up with her on my lap, her legs wrapped around me, and I carried her to my bedroom and gently laid her on the bed.  There we made out and I licked her all over and kissed her neck, which I knew she liked because of lesbian seduction texting.  Mainly:

Her:  O i know…theres nothing like soft lipz kissing and sucking on your neck slowly. Ughh

Her:  With one hand on nipples.  :*

This started from making a joke about her flaking on me.

She flaked so I told her something like, “That’s ok.  I’m actually glad you did.  I had  long night last night and am super tired today so thanks for cancelling!”

Then my next text was along the lines of, “I’ll just have to smack your ass next time I see you to make up for it.”

You have to go sexual.  You have to risk it.  If she flakes and internalizes it as, “I don’t want to see him.” or “I feel guilty for not going out with him.” or anything negative you’re done.  She’s gone.  So reframe flakes as, “Hahahaha! Thank God.  You must be a mind reader.  My friend wants to come over and cook me one of my favorite meals tonight (chick language for SOOO Much preselection).”  Something like that.  Then always follow up with another text.   Be risky.  Who cares.  At the very least say, “But you’ll have to make it up to me.”

So that started.  At certain times I just got worse and worse.  I think I went from 2 to 5 (smacks on her ass) and told her I had terrible math.  Then later in our texting I said I went to 15.  Then after she mock protested I dropped it to zero.

I really wish I would have saved the entire text exchange so you can see how this worked.  This text conversation started playfully then got just sexy as fuck.

The ones from her I saved as follows:

“Thats the real reason i didnt come, thought i’d rack up the spanks until i had a bunch.  Ha”

“ going to bite your ass, kiss your neck and smack your lipz….. “(This is where it started to convert to lightly sexual to sexual sexual.  This was after a text where I said, “Actually I’m going to smack your ass, bite your neck and kiss your lips.”)

So I’m jumping around but that’s how I’m thinking right now.. So after kissing her on the neck I basically started removing parts of her clothes but NOT before I laid on my back and said, “you want to see it?”


She already had a picture of my cock from the phone texting exchange where she demanded at one point I send her a picture.  It was soo cute too, because she was like, “Send me a picture.   I want to see it!”

Me: A picture of what?  😉

Her:  I want to see your Dick!!  No double standards! (she has already sent me a picture of one of her boobs and her pussy).

Me:  Hahaha.  I just wanted to hear you say it.

That got funny.  I do have a nice dick.  She Called me right after to tell me she had to stop the car.  “You have a really nice Weiner!”, she said in her sultry, sweet and innocently seductive voice.   Ok ok ok.  So if you talk to this girl she sounds like a sweetheart.  She  sounded so innocent and nice and free spirited.  She had such a sweet voice.  But it’s like there’s this hint of super strong sexuality that is lying just underneath the surface, which I find very, very hot.

So she sucked my cock, and she was throating the whole thing.  She loved feeling it at the back of her throat.  That was hot.  Turned me on so bad!

I verbally told her I was going to eat her out.  That we had to trade, she got to go down on me only if I got to go down on her.  She said, “No!”  I said, “Then you have to stop sucking my cock.”  I’m sure I didn’t seem very forceful and demanding at this point in between sighs of pleasure.  But whatever, it was the point or bartering.

Eventually I turned her over and started taking off her clothes.  I ended up pulling her pants and panties off at the same time.  None of this layer shit.  Get that resistance right the fuck out of the way…  She covered her hand over her pussy.  Just sat there and she was not moving her hand.

I rolled onto my back with a big smile…  “Cool.  We can just chill…  There’s your clothes,” I said, pointing at them.  They were right next to her within easy reach.  She did nothing.  I repeated myself, “There’s your clothes…”

“I’m thinking!” she protested.  Then I’m not sure what happened at this point, if she moved her hand or I went back up and started kissing her and moved down.  I should really remember these things but it was irrelevant really.  Once she said, “I’m thinking!” it was over.

It really was over anyway before we even met up.  The texting and phone conversations were really that good.  We fucked for a while.  Then we went to our day2 at whole foods, drank a $8 bottle of wine like we were in a fancy wine bar, and had a GREAT TIME.

THIS IS NOW MY FAVORITE DAY 2 SPOT EVER!  No – nothing compares.  Nothing compares to Whole Foods Kingsbury as a Day 2 spot.  Nothing at all!  There are people, food, you can buy alcohol for cheap and drink it in the store.  You can walk around drinking it in the store.  When we took the $8 bottle of wine to the Wine Bar in the back (where they actually sell their own wine and cheeze plates.) they opened it and gave us wine glasses to drink them in.  They poured the wine in the glasses like we were at a real wine bar. We sat and drank most of our wine and then got up and explored the store.  There were people set up with food displays, wine displays, all sorts of stuff going on and so much to talk about.  I will say that Whole Foods Kingsbury does not require a Venue Change.  Really.  Want a venue change?  Start out sitting at the wine bar in back and then go sit in the front bar for your second drink.  Walk around.  Go out back and show her the river and the seats they have strategically placed by the river.

This is my Favorite Day 2 spot EVER.

Ok, so it was fun.  I think you get that now.

Then with a wine buzz we went back to my house where she announced she was only staying 15 more minutes.   She wanted a quick one before she left.  It probably ended up more like an hour but no one complained.  I walked her out to her car and she left.  I did a little followup.

For the record this chick is sexy as hell to me.  Entirely fuckable, big, expensive, fake boobs on a sexy “I work in a Fitness center” body..   …  mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…   This is one of my favorite seductions so far.  But aren’t they all…….

Oh and I just realized I didn’t tell you guys where I met her.  She was a street approach I met walking near my home.  A block from me, daytime, I was walking the Late Mr Poop (who I miss like a motherfucker!) and I saw this sexy chick, well built and beautiful with a hint of something that turned me on; blond hair, older woman but hot!   She ended up being 40 which turned me on and still does as I write this.  I feel she’s a keeper, but we’ll see what happens…

The street approach was quality.  Not bullshit fluff, I amped it quickly because I was feeling it.  I wanted to fuck her; I wanted to seduce her; and I knew it.  I just remember immediately telling her to stop flaunting her boobs.  I would glance at her cleavage and then she would “naturally” pull up her top.  I said, “Stop doing that.  You’re only making it worse.  You don’t need to draw any more attention to your boobs than you already are.”

So it was essentially reframing her uncomfortable actions as her trying to seduce me.  It creates the frame and it’s easy to carry.  I got her number and texted her a couple times but wasn’t really getting much response until the Lesbian Seduction Texting started…

« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2011, 05:19 PM »

I like the part about the lesbian porn in your mind.  I should probably try that out, because I’m typically more dominant and forceful.  Some chicks love it, but I know I lose a lot of girls by being that way, too.

Ya – I think when I seduce I like to be more coquette or seductive about it.  Lots of playful push pull.  Lots of en francais which means I want it to be a big play scene.  Sex for me is not about a dominant and submissive role.  I don’t want to feel like it’s me dominating her and her relenting, well…  At least not that that’s the ONLY thing going on.The dynamic is, cats playing.  The dynamic is this is fun playtime.  I want her doing fun things and getting into it.  I think sometimes when we dominate the woman she then says, “Ok – now I have to be told what to do.” and unless one is really specific about telling the girl exactly what he likes or getting her to do it then it may not be as fun.

I’m not like that.  I like surprises and I like her to be excited and want to do whatever she wants to do.  Like in one of my Reports where q woman got on my bed, stripped off her clothes and giggled at me waiting expectantly.  That is what gets me turned on.  Girls resisting me all night telling me they aren’t going to fuck me and then after this playful dynamic they say, “Just fuck me already.”

But there was a little “dominant” going on, but it was still playful.  It’s when I was sitting in my chair and pulled her on to me.  Then I picked her up and carried her to my bed.  Then I took off all her clothes.  But it was so playful and fun she was also telling me things she wanted to do or have me do.

“Turn over.” she said.  She went down and obviously wanted to suck my cock.  She was playing with my nipples later, which gets me uncontrollably hot.  She was doing things freely because she wanted to as much as I did, and the vibe I create is “Lets Play.”

The smile on these women’s faces when we do this.  That’s the stuff that gets me horny.  When she is way into it.  When she is as much telling me what she wants to do or wants me to do to her as I am telling her.

The power dynamic disappears.  We are two people playing and exploring each other sexually.  Women telling me they feel comfortable around me; that’s what get’s me hot.

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by Ronnie Libra » August 14th, 2009, 2:57 am

(Obviously I posted this a long while ago in Detroit when my game was peaking last.  Also, this is going to be counterintuative to every text method you learned.  It does work.  Some girls will get into you, some girls will get creeped out but you will almost always get a response.  I like to use this on numbers that are staling.  Try it or don’t but if you do it yourself, and you use your OWN words the girl may end up digging on you.)

I have been trying to discover a good text game for a long time now.  It’s like pulling fucking teeth it seems like.  I have NOTHING amazing but have through LOTS of trial and error discovered some things that work but so far it’s been nothing to write home about.

There’s all these rules and regulations about, “keep it short and simple,” and, “match her response,” and this, that and the other thing but I just haven’t found a method that works.  Send a text that doesn’t require a response that makes her want to respond.  Try to build off it with all this Cheesy outrageous texting.  But there has to be a better way.

How about this…  If you are reading this let’s dissect this together.  Let’s pull out the good, great, bad and ugly.  Let’s see if there’s anything we can learn.  Let’s brainstorm it.  I mean if you read it, share what you think…  Let’s get the gold out of these texts.  Maybe we’ll discover something…

First of all the mindset is, “I don’t care.  If she wants to be seduced we’re going to fuck and if not oh well.”  That does NOT require you to rely on whether or not you get feedback or response from the woman.  It does NOT imply that your texts must be short yet powerful.  It does not imply that you text with ANY care about what the girl will think about your texts, the only goal is getting from point A to point F… That’s it.

SO let’s start with what she gave me.  This first part is her setting up the day2.  Some of the texts were already gone from her phone but by reading this I think HBSmokey asked the Married Woman to do something with her.  This is where we’ll start.  YES this is ALL TEXT.  Yes it comes in as 2,3,4 and 5 pages to the receiver:

Married Woman:  Ahh, would be nice but I gotta coach, volleyball just startin up.  I am going to PHX in november.

HBSmokey:  Who’s in Phnx?!  Family, life long friend Or a special “on the side” someone wink wink.  Ehh I myself am going out thr ‘cuz I lovit out thr … the weather & the beaners (mexican chicas) emmmmmmm… tht and an ex girlfriend.

MW:  No, my basketball team is going for 5 days, we play 2 games there.  Sounds like u will have more fun than me…lol

HBSmokey:  I think tht we’re going to be in each others “society” … Of course, as I am charming, attractive (sexified), funny (both ways: ha ha and acme style), clever and addicting and I thnk tht u are intelligent, selfassured & self aware, warm, inviting, respectful, among other things…  But the most important thng is…  You are curious about me & intrigued by me… A little dangerous.  Let’s see whr ths goes…  No worries as I can promise you tht I’ll push Or pursue the line of uncomfortable but!  I will verbally acknowledge your complete value as it pertains to me.  Let’s “socially mingle shall we.”

MW:  Ok we shall…

MW:  Damn girl, u r a fast texter!

HBSmokey: Ehh I  have a blkberry … I’m actually sending ONE txt buh’hut u may receive as multiple… lol! It’ll come across as multiple for sure.  😉  Ehh wuld u be up for breakfast/brunch 2mro?! My treat.  Kah’mon…  Maybe lunch thn.  FYI:  I love sushi… How’bout u?! (Seriously!  Love it! I could eat it everyday).

MW:  Not a big fan of sushi cuz i don’t really like fish, possibly dinner tomorrow just depends how my day goes at work.  I am meeting friends around 9:30 so maybe before that?

HBSmokey:  B4 tht I will pounce on tht extended opportunity to be in your company and have u be all kinds of beautiful!

HBSmokey:  What’s yer flavor/taste? as in food.

MW:  Do you like Thai?

HbSmokey:  I will eat Thai…  😉 Whr wuld u like to go?!

MW:  But do you like it?  We can go somewhere else… Otherwise i think there is a place right on main street

HBSmokey:  I don’t mind it, not my favorite…  But my direct intent is to spend time in your company… Sooo, food is your choice as I can find something to eat any whr tht we go.  U pick.

MW:  Ok how bout Sangria, more generic.

MW:  Let’s shoot for 7, i will text u tomorrow if i need to change time

HBSmokey:  Let me kno if’n it changes on yer end kitten.

MW:  Ok cool

HBSmokey:  Don’t thnk for a second tht I’m not sporting a very smug smile on my face right now…  kuz I am.  Yer fault, yeah yeah kitten… yer fault! Ehh I find myself charming as heck!  Tootles lovey.

MW:  U r charming i love the way u express yourself… “tootles”

HBSmokey:  I hope tht u enjoy the heck outta me Kuzz’ah imma gonna enjoy u until we must part… mmmmm you my “elective affinity” (aka the one whose company is extremely desired)… Alrighty, well my friend is almost to me and we are going to reak some girl havoc.  Mmmmm miss (NAME) (she’s from NY and she thnks tht I’m fabu)… is my company for the evening.  Anywhooo, thnk about me kuz I can feel it whnu do!  Tru story awww yeah.  😉

MW  Ok have a fab time then!


That’s the end of the first day’s texts.  Day2 was today’s set.  Even Lesbians get flakes but DAMN I never thought of reframing a girl flaking as SEXUAL…  That’s just Brilliant!  I told her so…

I was like, “She flaked and you’re still sending her all these texts.”

HBSmokey said EVERY Straight chick Flakes at first.  She expects it.  Then she said she texts them until they start flooding her back with texts and then she pulls back.  She doesn’t care about whether the chick responds or not.  She says what she wants to say and that’s it..


MW:  Have to reschedule=( sorry.  I forgot I had scheduled double practices today for my volleyball team.  I have to be at school from 6-8.  I feel really bad!

HBSmokey:  Phsssstttt! Fah’get’tah’bout’it!!! Nevr any worries kitten as I am not high maint (yeh feel me  😉 Yeah yeah & sure sure I would love to have had the pleasure of you(your company)ths evening as I wuld like the “getting to know you part” to be well on it’s way to the delightful and all capturing place of the knowing you.    Besides, on some level I kind’a like “the waiting” … Ehh here’s a ‘lil “TMI” (To Much Info)  Maybe TMI…  I like Tantric sex and part of being into ths type of thing is the desire for delayed pleasure (yesss, thr is more to it thn tht buh’hut!)…  and not being able to experience your company ths eve is almost pleasurable to me kuz i have to wait for u (and your schedule).  You see.   😉

HBSmokey:  I’ll tellz’yeh a secret kitten…  Picture these words on ths here phone of yours coming out of my mouth…  Do you have my mouth in your mind?!…  Picture these words rolling off my tongue and all ovr my lips and to your ears…  I am a great temptress and I am very good at seduction.  I would love to seduce you, but you can not seduce the willing, so I will take you on as a desire, a pleasure and a joyful beauty.  I will call you friend and I will keep you in whtever place tht you would like to exist.  I will surrender to your Comfort Zone and we’ll find a place just for us to exist with in each other.  Here I am, as any way tht you would like for me to be.  😉

MW:  Sorry was in practice…  Sounds good, another time for sure.

HBSmokey:  I’m out to eat with Ronni.  Yeah, and he was asking me about you.  I told him that u were beautiful… and he said and I quote; “Well duh.” and I responded with, “I wonder how it feels to kiss to kiss your skin…  The part on the back of your nec’!  Aw the image made us both smile Big!.

That’s all I got.

Whatever Else…

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Risk Creepy ~by 60yearsofchallenge

Ew, he wrote me a note, that is so creepy. Aw, he wrote me a note, that is so sweet!

Practice Creepy

Guys don’t get enough practice being seductive.

They have tons of practice being social and opening “sets” but not much practice being seductive.

If you want to be seductive you need to risk creepy. In fact, there is no way to avoid creepy. So you might as well admit it right now. You are creepy. But don’t worry, the so called “creepy” guys also gets laid the most.

Don’t Fear Creepy

Using seductive eye contact, looking at her lips while thinking about kissing her, and talking really slow can put women into a sexual trance.

But women will try to scare guys off their seductive game with the threat of the “creepy” label or the “ew you’re creepy” look. And guys will never be at their seductive best if they are still scared of creepy.

Ew or Aw

The threat of creepy is a bunch of crap.

Creepy is just a TEST women use to scare clueless guys off.

If she likes you, you are sexy. If she doesn’t like you or she feels you are not in her league, then you are creepy. This can change day to day or even moment to moment. You can use the exact same eye contact and touch on two separate girls and one will call you creepy, the other will think you are sexy.

Which is the truth?


Realize if a woman gives you that “you’re weird” look when you shut up and hold eye contact, it really just means she is trying to break the tension because she is getting turned on.

The implication that you are creepy can also be due to her not wanting to seem like a slut. She is turned on, but she’s pretending she isn’t. She may even tell her friends later that you were hitting on her and it was creepy, but that’s only to protect her social image.

Creepy Blowout

Of course there will be times when you try to be seductive and get blownout. For example, you hold seductive eye contact but she gives you a weird look implying you are creepy. Then she gets up and moves her seat further away from you. Ouch!

But there is really nothing to fear. It’s no different than a verbal blowout. I would much rather have a creepy rejection than a verbal one.

I really enjoy creepy. In fact, I love creepy. I just love putting the pressure on her. Watching women fidget and get nervous. Awesome! I can’t wait to creep some women out tonight.

I know creepy is the label you fear.

It is the reason you hold back and don’t escalate the vibe. The reason you stay in social mode. You would rather get blown out being cocky and disinterested than with seductive eye contact. This way you can keep your cool guy rep.

Your biggest weapons for seducing her are eye-contact, moving closer and touch. And they all come with the risk of creepy.

Be seductive. Risk creepy.

The Real Meanings of Words

Guys need to get over their fear that starting a conversation with a stranger is “weird”, being seductive and escalating is “creepy” and pushing things sexually is “perverted”.

– Risk Weird

If you are being social and start conversations some women will try and test you by saying or implying that you are weird for doing so. Or they will give you that “this is weird” look. Not every guy has the confidence to approach a woman, but it’s definitely not weird.

– Risk Creepy

When you are being seductive women will try to scare you off with the fear of creepy.

– Risk Perverted

When you are being sexually aggressive women will try to test you by calling or implying that you are a pervert. As if this is a bad thing. Yet many guys are scared of the pervert label as it conjures up images of an old guy jerking off in a porno booth. You want to be a pervert.